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Ish. I'm a weekend exerciser. But my strength is incomparable to someone who exercises every 3 days. I can run a 7.5 minute mile for example. But the people ar

Ish. I'm a weekend exerciser. But my strength is incomparable to someone who exercises every 3 days. I can run a 7.5 minute mile for example. But the people around me who exercise more frequently can run 6.5 minute miles. I can lift maybe 100lbs, but they can lift their bodyweight. Etc. etc. Its pretty obvious to me that weekend exercise has health benefits. But not so much strength / endurance benefits (which is and should be, your primary health goal). ----------- I think people need to calibrate their health expectations. Being stronger, feeling stronger, being faster, running longer... these are good attributes and clearly defined goals. They're easy and obvious to recognize as you exercise... more so than weight-loss or abstract goals like "better health". At least, that kind of thinking works for me. Maybe not for everyone, but I recommend people give it a try. Still, weekend-warriors will only reach weekend-levels of strength and endurance. That's okay for me, but I'd never consider myself equal to those who are obviously stronger than me. In either case, reaching 100lbs lift strength or 5 pullups or aiming for a sub-8 minute mile or whatever... while less good than a good and proper exerciser is still a great goal to work towards. Yes, feel good about your goals, even if you know stronger people than you. But also be humble and recognize where you stand in the world. And who knows? Maybe you'll get hooked on self improvement. Once you lift 100lbs or run sub-8 minute mile, then maybe you will gain the inspiration to lift 120lbs or 140lbs (reaching closer and closer to bodyweight lifting)... or drop down to 7-minute mile or sub-6 minutes. I mean, I didn't, but some other people do like the feeling. It honestly is one of the better motivations, seeing your own progress. ----- In any case, that extra +1 day (from 2-exercises per week to 3-exercises per week) adds a lot to your strength/endurance overall. Its really obvious and probably one of the easier ways to reach your fitness goal, whatever it is. And there's nothing stopping you from being a "visitor" to a more frequent exercise routine if you want to "try it out" for a few months and see how it affects your body. Try 3 exercise sessions per week, or 4, and then drop back down to 2 or whatever works better long term. Consistency is really the key, but visiting higher-levels and seeing if its "worth it" to your brain / psyche is important.

coldtea 4y ago
>I can run a 7.5 minute mile for example. But the people around me who exercise more frequently can run 6.5 minute miles. I can lift maybe 100lbs, but they can lift their bodyweight. Etc. etc. If that extra strength/endurance doesn't translate to much better health outcomes, but only marginally better, then it's kind of moot. And we do know that there are diminishing returns after some point (and even inverse returns: pro athletes and people training too hard often have health issues because of their extreme training). >Its pretty obvious to me that weekend exercise has health benefits. But not so much strength / endurance benefits (which is and should be, your primary health goal). Sorry, but health should be the primary exercize goal, not stength/endurance.
- dragontamer 4y ago
  The main issue with "health as a goal" is that its very ill-defined and hard to measure. Instead, if your goal is "run a 5k without stopping", then its really much more obvious if you're hitting or missing that goal. Or 10 pullups (or 5 pullups or whatever). You can ask yourself: what can a healthy-person do? There's a bit of wiggleroom and interpretation over it. I think run a mile, lift 100lbs, and do some pullups and a handstand / cartwheel. Yeah, its a bit silly but... they are defined goals that I was unable to do before I practiced, and am now able to do. > If that extra strength/endurance doesn't translate to much better health outcomes That extra strength/endurance translates into my ability to walk around cities and other locations I visit. I think the "run a mile" and "run/jog a 5k" benchmarks are useful, because when you're visiting other cities, you want to have enough leg strength and endurance to like, walk around and not take an Uber all the time? Cartwheel / handstand / pullup is largely for fun. I can't say that its ever been useful, but playing with my nieces and keeping up with them is important to me in some respects. I think I use some of that strength when lifting my nieces and carrying them around when they get tired in the city. "Lift 100 lbs" is just officework, strangely enough. Every now and then, you gotta move a UPS unit or whatever, and having the strength to move lead-acid batteries around the racks is helpful (even if you nominally have a 2nd person supposed to be helping you). I'm no power-lifter, but its a level of strength that apparently a lot of my other officemates don't have. --------- The flexibility to "slav-squat" / "3rd world squat" is useful when changing tires / working on my car. Also quickly sitting / resting in front of a store in a city without touching the ground.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    > That extra strength/endurance translates into my ability to walk around cities and other locations I visit. But you're the weekend exerciser. The question is whether there'd be any use to matching the strength/endurance of those other people around you.
    - dragontamer 4y ago
      Being the weekend exerciser means that I'm able to keep up with the athletes when they want to walk to the next restaurant / location... rather than taking an Uber with the non-exercisers. I'm not strong enough to beat the athletes in a footrace. But they're not racing me, they're just walking at their normal pace / jogging pace to make travel a bit quicker. ----------- Being the weekend-exerciser means that I can lift one of my nieces and throw her around safely as I play with her. (Ex: pick her up, throw her onto the monkey bars at the playground and whatnot). But I'm not as strong as the athlete who can lift _TWO_ of my nieces (one in each hand) and toss them both around safely and at the same time. As such, my nieces swarm the athlete of the group and ask to be picked up / moved around / etc. etc when we go to playgrounds. Because having fun with her sister is twice the fun. You know, little things that stronger people can do that weaker people cannot do.

coldtea 4y ago

>I can run a 7.5 minute mile for example. But the people around me who exercise more frequently can run 6.5 minute miles. I can lift maybe 100lbs, but they can lift their bodyweight. Etc. etc. If that extra strength/endurance doesn't translate to much better health outcomes, but only marginally better, then it's kind of moot. And we do know that there are diminishing returns after some point (and even inverse returns: pro athletes and people training too hard often have health issues because of their extreme training). >Its pretty obvious to me that weekend exercise has health benefits. But not so much strength / endurance benefits (which is and should be, your primary health goal). Sorry, but health should be the primary exercize goal, not stength/endurance.

dragontamer 4y ago
The main issue with "health as a goal" is that its very ill-defined and hard to measure. Instead, if your goal is "run a 5k without stopping", then its really much more obvious if you're hitting or missing that goal. Or 10 pullups (or 5 pullups or whatever). You can ask yourself: what can a healthy-person do? There's a bit of wiggleroom and interpretation over it. I think run a mile, lift 100lbs, and do some pullups and a handstand / cartwheel. Yeah, its a bit silly but... they are defined goals that I was unable to do before I practiced, and am now able to do. > If that extra strength/endurance doesn't translate to much better health outcomes That extra strength/endurance translates into my ability to walk around cities and other locations I visit. I think the "run a mile" and "run/jog a 5k" benchmarks are useful, because when you're visiting other cities, you want to have enough leg strength and endurance to like, walk around and not take an Uber all the time? Cartwheel / handstand / pullup is largely for fun. I can't say that its ever been useful, but playing with my nieces and keeping up with them is important to me in some respects. I think I use some of that strength when lifting my nieces and carrying them around when they get tired in the city. "Lift 100 lbs" is just officework, strangely enough. Every now and then, you gotta move a UPS unit or whatever, and having the strength to move lead-acid batteries around the racks is helpful (even if you nominally have a 2nd person supposed to be helping you). I'm no power-lifter, but its a level of strength that apparently a lot of my other officemates don't have. --------- The flexibility to "slav-squat" / "3rd world squat" is useful when changing tires / working on my car. Also quickly sitting / resting in front of a store in a city without touching the ground.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  > That extra strength/endurance translates into my ability to walk around cities and other locations I visit. But you're the weekend exerciser. The question is whether there'd be any use to matching the strength/endurance of those other people around you.
  - dragontamer 4y ago
    Being the weekend exerciser means that I'm able to keep up with the athletes when they want to walk to the next restaurant / location... rather than taking an Uber with the non-exercisers. I'm not strong enough to beat the athletes in a footrace. But they're not racing me, they're just walking at their normal pace / jogging pace to make travel a bit quicker. ----------- Being the weekend-exerciser means that I can lift one of my nieces and throw her around safely as I play with her. (Ex: pick her up, throw her onto the monkey bars at the playground and whatnot). But I'm not as strong as the athlete who can lift _TWO_ of my nieces (one in each hand) and toss them both around safely and at the same time. As such, my nieces swarm the athlete of the group and ask to be picked up / moved around / etc. etc when we go to playgrounds. Because having fun with her sister is twice the fun. You know, little things that stronger people can do that weaker people cannot do.