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lol, what’s the concern? Someone will blow up their private jet with 5 people on board? boo-hoo. There are no hardened (or any) cockpit doors on PJs, you eat w

by prvit 4y ago

lol, what’s the concern? Someone will blow up their private jet with 5 people on board? boo-hoo. There are no hardened (or any) cockpit doors on PJs, you eat with metal cutlery and often serve yourself drinks from large glass bottles. Want to fly a plane into a building? Anyone can get a pilots license, there are no background checks. You can just rent a plane and pull off “the next 9/11”, no amount of terminal security can solve this. What exactly is your concern? What would better security at a private jet terminal prevent? It’s super unusual that there were any pre-departure controls at all. I’ve never had my stuff checked while flying private, except occasionally by customs, at arrival.

Scoundreller 4y ago
> Want to fly a plane into a building? Anyone can get a pilots license, there are no background checks. You can just rent a plane and pull off “the next 9/11”, no amount of terminal security can solve this. Yes, those are concerns.
- prvit 4y ago
  How are “The staff at the charter jet terminal” supposed to address this? Those are the people GP called “criminally clueless”, suggesting that the lack of pre-departure controls for private jets will cause the next 9/11.
  - Scoundreller 4y ago
    Fire the criminally clueless and replace their setup with the security that’s setup for every other airport terminal. And if you need a background check for a HAM radio license, it makes sense to have a background check for pilot licenses.
    - prvit 4y ago
      > Fire the criminally clueless and replace their setup with the security that’s setup for every other airport terminal. What will that achieve? How many terror attacks have there been on board private planes? > And if you need a background check for a HAM radio license, it makes sense to have a background check for pilot licenses. An useful background check would be something more akin to a security clearance, not like a HAM radio license.
      - Scoundreller 4y ago
        1. How many successful terror attacks have happened with any plane currently flying? Zero. How many terror attacks have I committed? Zero. Why do we still check those? Whatever checking private planes would achieve. Maybe that's nothing, but annoying safety/security measures need to be all or nothing. No exemptions. 2. You didn't understand re: HAM radio, you have to report your felonies for a HAM radio license and that gets reviewed, in USA anyway: http://www.arrl.org/fcc-qualification-question http://www.arrl.org/fcc-qualification-question
        prvit 4y ago
        > Why do we still check those? Whatever checking private planes would achieve. Regular passenger flights often contain hundreds of random people, private jets don’t. It’s downright idiotic to equate these. > 2. You didn't understand re: HAM radio, you have to report your felonies for a HAM radio license and that gets reviewed, in USA anyway I did understand.
  - CamperBob2 4y ago
    I'm not saying that private charter flights should get the whole TSA treatment. They certainly shouldn't. I'm just saying, when you run into some people who claim to be classical musicians but who don't look or behave anything like any musicians you've ever heard of, who are travelling on an unusual schedule with unusual luggage, who ask a lot of oddly-specific questions about security, who seem overly concerned with whether or not a large crate will get X-rayed, and who offer you large quantities of cash for unclear reasons, it's worth at least a quick ping to airport security.
    - prvit 4y ago
      > it's worth at least a quick ping to airport security. “airport security” generally doesn’t show up for free, it’s a paid service.
      - CamperBob2 4y ago
        Interesting, I didn't know that. Seems weird to discourage people from flagging suspicious activity. "See something, say something" doesn't mean you have to go full Stasi, just keep your eyes open and use some common sense.

by prvit 4y ago

Scoundreller 4y ago

> Want to fly a plane into a building? Anyone can get a pilots license, there are no background checks. You can just rent a plane and pull off “the next 9/11”, no amount of terminal security can solve this. Yes, those are concerns.

prvit 4y ago
How are “The staff at the charter jet terminal” supposed to address this? Those are the people GP called “criminally clueless”, suggesting that the lack of pre-departure controls for private jets will cause the next 9/11.
- Scoundreller 4y ago
  Fire the criminally clueless and replace their setup with the security that’s setup for every other airport terminal. And if you need a background check for a HAM radio license, it makes sense to have a background check for pilot licenses.
  - prvit 4y ago
    > Fire the criminally clueless and replace their setup with the security that’s setup for every other airport terminal. What will that achieve? How many terror attacks have there been on board private planes? > And if you need a background check for a HAM radio license, it makes sense to have a background check for pilot licenses. An useful background check would be something more akin to a security clearance, not like a HAM radio license.
    - Scoundreller 4y ago
      1. How many successful terror attacks have happened with any plane currently flying? Zero. How many terror attacks have I committed? Zero. Why do we still check those? Whatever checking private planes would achieve. Maybe that's nothing, but annoying safety/security measures need to be all or nothing. No exemptions. 2. You didn't understand re: HAM radio, you have to report your felonies for a HAM radio license and that gets reviewed, in USA anyway: http://www.arrl.org/fcc-qualification-question http://www.arrl.org/fcc-qualification-question
      - prvit 4y ago
        > Why do we still check those? Whatever checking private planes would achieve. Regular passenger flights often contain hundreds of random people, private jets don’t. It’s downright idiotic to equate these. > 2. You didn't understand re: HAM radio, you have to report your felonies for a HAM radio license and that gets reviewed, in USA anyway I did understand.
- CamperBob2 4y ago
  I'm not saying that private charter flights should get the whole TSA treatment. They certainly shouldn't. I'm just saying, when you run into some people who claim to be classical musicians but who don't look or behave anything like any musicians you've ever heard of, who are travelling on an unusual schedule with unusual luggage, who ask a lot of oddly-specific questions about security, who seem overly concerned with whether or not a large crate will get X-rayed, and who offer you large quantities of cash for unclear reasons, it's worth at least a quick ping to airport security.
  - prvit 4y ago
    > it's worth at least a quick ping to airport security. “airport security” generally doesn’t show up for free, it’s a paid service.
    - CamperBob2 4y ago
      Interesting, I didn't know that. Seems weird to discourage people from flagging suspicious activity. "See something, say something" doesn't mean you have to go full Stasi, just keep your eyes open and use some common sense.