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I wonder how many people have successfully bootstrapped acting gigs this way. Perhaps not the guy in the example, as his various poorly written bios expose him

by tyingq 4y ago

I wonder how many people have successfully bootstrapped acting gigs this way. Perhaps not the guy in the example, as his various poorly written bios expose him. But surely there are people that are better at this game.

cubancigar11 4y ago
Seo is a fair play and I don't see why we are so quick to blame young people. It is Google that should be blamed for making themselves more important than they deserve to be.
- josephcsible 4y ago
  Making up lies about yourself to make yourself look better than you really are is "fair play"?
  - tresqotheq 4y ago
    Yes, it is called "Marketing". And the world runs on it.
    - worthless-trash 4y ago
      There is a difference between marketing and lying yo. The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes for your moral character.
      - tresqotheq 4y ago
        >There is a difference between marketing and lying yo In a perfect world, there should be. But sadly we don't live in that world. > The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes for your moral character. I seem to have hit a nerve there. Sorry if I ruined your day or something..
- Mo3 4y ago
  This is not SEO, it’s fraud and deception.
  - NoSorryCannot 4y ago
    A lot of what is labeled and sold as "SEO" might as well be diet fraud. Plagiarism, false advertising, astroturfing, etc. It certainly isn't just letting the Google bot know what your website is about.
    - tyingq 4y ago
      I agree, though I think it's fair play to try and do things that the Google algorithm likes...but are not directly related to quality. Say somewhere in the bowels of their ML pipelines, features that get scored include things like "has a favicon.ico and it's unique and not seen elsewhere". Well, then doing that isn't really fraud to me. It's just adding "proxies for quality" so you aren't dinged for not having them.
  - cubancigar11 4y ago
    Ummm, this is SEO? Because it is a hack from google's algo? This is exactly my problem with the "hackers" here and the article's author - conflating the action with content. He finds an unscroupolous usage of that hack and generalizes without any effort that all of it is fraud. It is not okay to glide over the 'young people' part and generally not being empathetic to those trying to beat the market. If it is fraud, which is a crime, are you suggesting these people should be sent to jail? Because if not then you shouldn't use the that word. Words have meaning.
    - theamk 4y ago
      I would love to have a way to punish people for submitting knownlingly bad information to publicly editable databases like IMDB (note I don't care about Google, it is IMDB that should be protected) Jail is too much, but it woukd be nice to have a fine of some sort, because "poisining the well" for everyone is really not cool. (in practice any such system would be abused a lot, so we are probably better off with status quo.. but in the ideal world we'd punish those people)
netsharc 4y ago
Why even bother with getting an acting gig where they'll figure out you can't even act? Just fake the fame (is it fake if Google says it's real?), and get free meals, etc (hah, I guess Instagram was the platform for this a while ago). There are people like the fake heiress Anna Sorokin who faked being wealthy, who's even getting movie deals after being caught, but never admitting to being wrong (this statement not checked for accuracy, I just noticed an interview where she seems to be claiming it's all been a misunderstanding). The world's a funny place. A Formula 1 racer got his career started when he got himself a lift with 2 bosses of 2 different teams - each of them thought he was friends with the other guy. He talked his way into a driving job, but of course, once there, he had to show he could race.

by tyingq 4y ago

cubancigar11 4y ago

Seo is a fair play and I don't see why we are so quick to blame young people. It is Google that should be blamed for making themselves more important than they deserve to be.

josephcsible 4y ago
Making up lies about yourself to make yourself look better than you really are is "fair play"?
- tresqotheq 4y ago
  Yes, it is called "Marketing". And the world runs on it.
  - worthless-trash 4y ago
    There is a difference between marketing and lying yo. The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes for your moral character.
    - tresqotheq 4y ago
      >There is a difference between marketing and lying yo In a perfect world, there should be. But sadly we don't live in that world. > The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes for your moral character. I seem to have hit a nerve there. Sorry if I ruined your day or something..
Mo3 4y ago
This is not SEO, it’s fraud and deception.
- NoSorryCannot 4y ago
  A lot of what is labeled and sold as "SEO" might as well be diet fraud. Plagiarism, false advertising, astroturfing, etc. It certainly isn't just letting the Google bot know what your website is about.
  - tyingq 4y ago
    I agree, though I think it's fair play to try and do things that the Google algorithm likes...but are not directly related to quality. Say somewhere in the bowels of their ML pipelines, features that get scored include things like "has a favicon.ico and it's unique and not seen elsewhere". Well, then doing that isn't really fraud to me. It's just adding "proxies for quality" so you aren't dinged for not having them.
- cubancigar11 4y ago
  Ummm, this is SEO? Because it is a hack from google's algo? This is exactly my problem with the "hackers" here and the article's author - conflating the action with content. He finds an unscroupolous usage of that hack and generalizes without any effort that all of it is fraud. It is not okay to glide over the 'young people' part and generally not being empathetic to those trying to beat the market. If it is fraud, which is a crime, are you suggesting these people should be sent to jail? Because if not then you shouldn't use the that word. Words have meaning.
  - theamk 4y ago
    I would love to have a way to punish people for submitting knownlingly bad information to publicly editable databases like IMDB (note I don't care about Google, it is IMDB that should be protected) Jail is too much, but it woukd be nice to have a fine of some sort, because "poisining the well" for everyone is really not cool. (in practice any such system would be abused a lot, so we are probably better off with status quo.. but in the ideal world we'd punish those people)

netsharc 4y ago

Why even bother with getting an acting gig where they'll figure out you can't even act? Just fake the fame (is it fake if Google says it's real?), and get free meals, etc (hah, I guess Instagram was the platform for this a while ago). There are people like the fake heiress Anna Sorokin who faked being wealthy, who's even getting movie deals after being caught, but never admitting to being wrong (this statement not checked for accuracy, I just noticed an interview where she seems to be claiming it's all been a misunderstanding). The world's a funny place. A Formula 1 racer got his career started when he got himself a lift with 2 bosses of 2 different teams - each of them thought he was friends with the other guy. He talked his way into a driving job, but of course, once there, he had to show he could race.