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Most comments are about the library, which makes sense. I think it’s curious how the strategy of homophobes have shifted over the years. Earlier they would simp

Most comments are about the library, which makes sense. I think it’s curious how the strategy of homophobes have shifted over the years. Earlier they would simply say “gayness is a sin that needs to be wiped out”. But no, it’s a social faux pas to be outright homophobic. So they’ve rebranded with “but think of the children”. I have no doubt that they believe a teenager could read a book and decide to be gay. Studies on genetics say otherwise, but these are not the kind of folks who might not be inclined towards understanding genetics.

cato_the_elder 4y ago
> Studies on genetics say otherwise It's actually not that clear. Like most traits, both genetics and environment play a role. Also, you are straw-manning the "homophobic" position. Humans have self-control, and having a desire doesn't mean one should act on it.
pseudalopex 4y ago
They always said think of the children.
- azinman2 4y ago
  The use of the word grooming is new, although the reference to pedophilia is not. What’s crazy is how that can carry weight in 2022.
  - slt2021 4y ago
    https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-021...
    - azinman2 4y ago
      What does that have anything to do with the hateful message that equates queer people with pedophiles?
      - Defletter 4y ago
        Nothing. It was just another opportunity to throw some more misinformation confetti.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  Indeed: https://www.mic.com/articles/144948/this-50s-film-shows-depicting-lgbt-people-as-predators-is-the-oldest-game-in-the-book https://www.mic.com/articles/144948/this-50s-film-shows-depi...
slt2021 4y ago
pls read this research, kids absolutely can (falsely) decide that they are trans just because it is considered trendy and because some of their friends came out as trans (peer pressure). Then after some time they realize they are NOT trans and were falsely led to gender-change surgery, and have to reverse gender reversal surgery https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-021... these are unfortunate consequences to all the media grooming and brainwash happening in mainstream discourse re lgbtq
- Defletter 4y ago
  > There is no single narrative to explain the experiences of all individuals who detransition and we should take care to avoid painting this population with a broad brush. > Findings about detransition should be used to improve our understanding of gender dysphoria and to better inform the processes of evaluation, counseling, and informed consent for individuals who are contemplating transition. Did your not read your own study?
  - slt2021 4y ago
    author provides breakdown further, I encourage you to continue reading this paper [with an open mind]
    - Defletter 4y ago
      I'll read it through [with an open mind] once you have. Since the conclusions you've drawn are thoroughly incongruous with the abstract and conclusion, I gather that you haven't, in fact, read it.
      - slt2021 4y ago
        from the same abstract you skipped over: >>Reasons for detransitioning were varied and included: .. 2) becoming more comfortable identifying as their natal sex (60.0%); so 60 out of 100 patients who gender transitioned were NOT in fact transgenders and were falsely led towards gender transition surgery >>The majority (55.0%) felt that they did not receive an adequate evaluation from a doctor or mental health professional before starting transition This matches the parents' pushback argument that gender transition is being prescribed and promoted left and right, which leads to medical mistakes

cato_the_elder 4y ago

> Studies on genetics say otherwise It's actually not that clear. Like most traits, both genetics and environment play a role. Also, you are straw-manning the "homophobic" position. Humans have self-control, and having a desire doesn't mean one should act on it.

pseudalopex 4y ago

They always said think of the children.

azinman2 4y ago
The use of the word grooming is new, although the reference to pedophilia is not. What’s crazy is how that can carry weight in 2022.
- slt2021 4y ago
  https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-021...
  - azinman2 4y ago
    What does that have anything to do with the hateful message that equates queer people with pedophiles?
    - Defletter 4y ago
      Nothing. It was just another opportunity to throw some more misinformation confetti.
MichaelCollins 4y ago
Indeed: https://www.mic.com/articles/144948/this-50s-film-shows-depicting-lgbt-people-as-predators-is-the-oldest-game-in-the-book https://www.mic.com/articles/144948/this-50s-film-shows-depi...

slt2021 4y ago

pls read this research, kids absolutely can (falsely) decide that they are trans just because it is considered trendy and because some of their friends came out as trans (peer pressure). Then after some time they realize they are NOT trans and were falsely led to gender-change surgery, and have to reverse gender reversal surgery https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-021... these are unfortunate consequences to all the media grooming and brainwash happening in mainstream discourse re lgbtq

Defletter 4y ago
> There is no single narrative to explain the experiences of all individuals who detransition and we should take care to avoid painting this population with a broad brush. > Findings about detransition should be used to improve our understanding of gender dysphoria and to better inform the processes of evaluation, counseling, and informed consent for individuals who are contemplating transition. Did your not read your own study?
- slt2021 4y ago
  author provides breakdown further, I encourage you to continue reading this paper [with an open mind]
  - Defletter 4y ago
    I'll read it through [with an open mind] once you have. Since the conclusions you've drawn are thoroughly incongruous with the abstract and conclusion, I gather that you haven't, in fact, read it.
    - slt2021 4y ago
      from the same abstract you skipped over: >>Reasons for detransitioning were varied and included: .. 2) becoming more comfortable identifying as their natal sex (60.0%); so 60 out of 100 patients who gender transitioned were NOT in fact transgenders and were falsely led towards gender transition surgery >>The majority (55.0%) felt that they did not receive an adequate evaluation from a doctor or mental health professional before starting transition This matches the parents' pushback argument that gender transition is being prescribed and promoted left and right, which leads to medical mistakes