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Pretty cool tech, but from the Dave2D video, the crease + bulkiness is still bad enough to be a dealbreaker for me (and I imagine many others as well). I find
by crakhamster01 4y ago
Pretty cool tech, but from the Dave2D video, the crease + bulkiness is still bad enough to be a dealbreaker for me (and I imagine many others as well).
I find it interesting that companies like Asus, Samsung, etc. frequently put out these devices that feature emerging tech, but clearly aren't ready for primetime. You would never catch Apple releasing something like this since they have brand value to protect, but Asus seems to be fine risking that in order to claim the title of "first to market".
One day this tech will be ready for the masses, and I imagine that's when Apple will release something. Why are companies like Asus spending money on marketing that "warms up" the general audience to this tech, only to have Apple come eat their lunch a few years later?
- colinmhayes 4y agoApple released that butterfly keyboard. The MacBook line was absolutely suffering for years until the redesign that came with m1
- samstave 4y ago>"You would never catch Apple releasing something like this since they have brand value to protect" - Do you recall the original iphone lacked a bunch of really "duh" features at first. The main one being no copy+paste? Sure, Apple has made mistakes... No way to iron out the wrinkles in your foldable OLED screens until you get enough people to try them on first.
- BoorishBears 4y agoYou're being way too defensive here. The iPhone was revolutionary, lacking some software features at launch was nothing that couldn't be fixed. What the post above clearly means is releasing hardware that's still a few iterations from being "mainstream appealing" If you actually follow the story of the iPhone, Apple could have released a bulkier more primitive version, but Steve Jobs refused because it wouldn't have mainstream appeal. And Apple just seems to be more conservative in the feature wars in general. They held out the longest on OLEDs, they held out the longest on 120hz, etc. all until it was practically "boring" tech.
- samstave 4y agoMy only point was, that sure the FOLED is new, but heck, I had the first gen iPhone on day one, and every single version up to X So, Sure, its novel - but give it a try. I am not being overly defensive of apple, I am saying, this is the HN croud, I have always been an early adopter, ever since the 80s... So I dont poo-poo on this thing. I love it. The only feature I _really_ want this machine to have is IP68 waterproofing or better. Imagine a smaller size of this device that attached to a divers arm, but can be 'curved' to the shape of the SCU-Bracer-9000.
- laumars 4y agoThe stuff you’re critiquing does have mainstream appeal though. If it didn’t they wouldn’t sell well. Yet they do. Honestly, the views here smack more of elitism than any deep understanding of what the mainstream like.
- BoorishBears 4y agoYou're completely misunderstanding what I don't think is a difficult point. Don't look at sales of the folding phones for example... look at sales at the very first folding phone (low production Samsung model) Look at sales of not 120hz screens, but the first 120hz (spoiler: It was a low production Razer gaming phone) Look at the laptop linked here... clearly it is not meant to sell in mainstream numbers like a Macbook - Other companies seem to be ok with releasing what are essentially prototypes with production bodies. There's bound to be teething issues, but they're ok with that. And the feature might have mainstream appeal, but the entire device they release it on does not... at least not in the current iteration. Apple on the other hand seems to only want to release once they can release in full force and maximum widespread appeal.
- laumars 4y agoI understand your point perfectly fine. What you’re doing is cherry picking examples to suit a personal bias and ignoring the fact that some of your examples of “unready technology” not only sell well but are hugely loved by those who own it. Take the Samsung phone you’re citing. One of my non-technical friends has one and absolutely loves it. Plenty of companies have successful products with hardware that you consider beneath you. And Apple have released plenty of hardware that has absolutely been unfit for mass market. The destination you’re making here is purely your own bias.
- codethief 4y agoNot sure I'd want to iron my foldable OLED screen just to get it straight again.
- laumars 4y agoRise tinted glasses much? Apple have had more than their fair share of bad tech. Such as fanless computers overheating, keyboards that break, monitor hinges that tear the monitor cable, and the first iPhone had fewer features than many of the “dumb” feature phones released years prior. I say this as someone who owns a lot of Apple hardware too. So this isn’t some anti Apple bias Moreover it’s pretty absurd to say that hugely popular products aren’t ready for the prime time. The fact they’re popular and sell well means they precisely were.
- upupandup 4y agoIt's ridiculous how much of a premium people pay towards Apple.
- breakfastduck 4y agoValue is relative. Take the iPod. I would rather pay the premium for it even though it does much the same as competitors. Because it does it just that little bit better, that's still worth a lot more.
- crakhamster01 4y agoHaha yea maybe my glasses are a little tinted, but I think you're conflating two different points. Apple has released flawed products in the past, but they rarely (never?) include emerging tech that isn't polished enough for mainstream consumption. I say this as a former Android user who loved touting that "Android had that feature first", but it's hard to deny that features like mobile payments have just been executed better by Apple. Also, since when are foldable OLEDs hugely popular?