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Review from Dave2D 4 months ago, addresses the crease & hinge on a pre-production unit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE https://www.youtube.com/watc

Review from Dave2D 4 months ago, addresses the crease & hinge on a pre-production unit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE I think it seems like a cool idea, 17" at 4:3 ratio is alot of screen real estate, at a 12.5" 16:9 footprint. Lot of negativity in this comment section, personally not something I'm that interested in, but I am interested in people experimenting with the form factor.

sneak 4y ago
It’s only 2560 by 1920.
- sovnade 4y ago
  is that not enough for a 17"? I don't have that many on my 27" desktop monitors and it's totally fine.
- entropicdrifter 4y ago
  Raw resolution matters a lot less than PPI and contrast/color quality, IMO
  - solarkraft 4y ago
    On a phone yes, on a "desktop" OS losing resolution often also means being able to display less stuff.
    - sudosysgen 4y ago
      In 2022 scaling mostly works.
      - andai 4y ago
        I have a 4K screen with Windows 10. Some apps look great, some have really blurry text, some have really tiny UIs (or a comical mix of tiny and normal sized). This last category includes much of Windows' own UI...
      - brokenmachine 4y ago
        Not in my experience.
- elxr 4y ago
  That's completely fine.
- Sholmesy 4y ago
  Sorry, I should have clarified what I meant. I meant that 4:3 17" is substantially more than a 16:9 17" monitor. 4:3 vs 16:9 for the same diagonal (17") results in 12% more area. a 16" MBP is already large, and is only 16:10, so 17" 4:3 is comparable to like 18/19" of work space in 16:9/10 world.
- me551ah 4y ago
  Scaling settings matter a lot more than just resolution
wakeupcall 4y ago
I think the design is brilliant. Nice 4:3 ratio. This essentially doubles as a full screen you can put anywhere with a keyboard always at hand. That's how I use my laptop 99.9% of the time. The microsoft book is already better than a regular clamshell in my eyes for versatility, but If you ignore the price for a moment (which brings the book to ridicolous costs), IMHO this design beats a clamshell design in versatility a 1000 times over, and the detachable screen design as well.
- csdvrx 4y ago
  I have a X1 Fold Tablet, and it's the best device I've ever owned I like it so much that I spent time to make it work great under Windows 11: check https://csdvrx.github.io/ https://csdvrx.github.io/
  - solarkraft 4y ago
    ... you need to manually fix it for Windows? Does it ship with Linux or something? Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it, but what an incredible software shit show. Imagine spending millions on hardware R&D only to release a product that's unusable due to terrible software. Why do manufacturers keep doing this?
    - csdvrx 4y ago
      > Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it Just get one - it's hard to live without it now!! > but what an incredible software shit show. Microsoft didn't deliver the OS they were supposed to (bad) but Windows 11 is everything and more (good) Intel... well, it's Intel. If you go into plane mode before suspend and play with the device manager to restart the device when the driver crashes or use one of my approaches or scripts, it works great!
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layer8 4y ago
Just for comparison, this 17.3" 4:3 is the same height as 21.1" 16:9, and it has 185 DPI. If it was a bit larger and slightly higher DPI, I’d consider it as a main monitor for a desktop build. I’m still waiting for an OLED monitor in the 24-27" range with 200+ DPI.

sneak 4y ago

It’s only 2560 by 1920.

sovnade 4y ago
is that not enough for a 17"? I don't have that many on my 27" desktop monitors and it's totally fine.
entropicdrifter 4y ago
Raw resolution matters a lot less than PPI and contrast/color quality, IMO
- solarkraft 4y ago
  On a phone yes, on a "desktop" OS losing resolution often also means being able to display less stuff.
  - sudosysgen 4y ago
    In 2022 scaling mostly works.
    - andai 4y ago
      I have a 4K screen with Windows 10. Some apps look great, some have really blurry text, some have really tiny UIs (or a comical mix of tiny and normal sized). This last category includes much of Windows' own UI...
    - brokenmachine 4y ago
      Not in my experience.
elxr 4y ago
That's completely fine.
Sholmesy 4y ago
Sorry, I should have clarified what I meant. I meant that 4:3 17" is substantially more than a 16:9 17" monitor. 4:3 vs 16:9 for the same diagonal (17") results in 12% more area. a 16" MBP is already large, and is only 16:10, so 17" 4:3 is comparable to like 18/19" of work space in 16:9/10 world.
me551ah 4y ago
Scaling settings matter a lot more than just resolution

wakeupcall 4y ago

I think the design is brilliant. Nice 4:3 ratio. This essentially doubles as a full screen you can put anywhere with a keyboard always at hand. That's how I use my laptop 99.9% of the time. The microsoft book is already better than a regular clamshell in my eyes for versatility, but If you ignore the price for a moment (which brings the book to ridicolous costs), IMHO this design beats a clamshell design in versatility a 1000 times over, and the detachable screen design as well.

csdvrx 4y ago
I have a X1 Fold Tablet, and it's the best device I've ever owned I like it so much that I spent time to make it work great under Windows 11: check https://csdvrx.github.io/ https://csdvrx.github.io/
- solarkraft 4y ago
  ... you need to manually fix it for Windows? Does it ship with Linux or something? Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it, but what an incredible software shit show. Imagine spending millions on hardware R&D only to release a product that's unusable due to terrible software. Why do manufacturers keep doing this?
  - csdvrx 4y ago
    > Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it Just get one - it's hard to live without it now!! > but what an incredible software shit show. Microsoft didn't deliver the OS they were supposed to (bad) but Windows 11 is everything and more (good) Intel... well, it's Intel. If you go into plane mode before suspend and play with the device manager to restart the device when the driver crashes or use one of my approaches or scripts, it works great!
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    - 4y ago

layer8 4y ago

Just for comparison, this 17.3" 4:3 is the same height as 21.1" 16:9, and it has 185 DPI. If it was a bit larger and slightly higher DPI, I’d consider it as a main monitor for a desktop build. I’m still waiting for an OLED monitor in the 24-27" range with 200+ DPI.