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OmniEdge – an Open source P2P layer 2 VPN infrastructure based on n2n protocol

42 points by fariszr 4y ago

janandonly 4y ago
Reminds me of Hamachi VPN from ~15 years ago. https://vpn.net/ https://vpn.net/
- barking_dog 4y ago
  Oh, Hamachi. I started using n2n in some cases but nothing beat the simplicity of setting up Hamachi.
  - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
    maybe zerotier?
    - hyperionplays 4y ago
      +1 for zerotier
      - mobilio 4y ago
        +1 for ZeroTier. I've using it on few Linux boxes and Macs. Awesome service!
dankai 4y ago
How fast/performant is it in comparison to tailscale, nebula, and wireguard (kernel module) ?
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peanut-walrus 4y ago
Wtf is a "Blockchain VPN" ?
- _joel 4y ago
  Not sure, seems to be more like DHT for peer discovery to me, but I really didn't spend a lot reading, hard pass from me.
RL_Quine 4y ago
Nothing about this website really gives a whole lot of confidence. It claims to be "Started from US", but the broken English that's prevalent on every single page says otherwise, there's no information about what company is supposedly behind its creation, and the webserver is behind cloudflare. Both the git repo and the website proper are filled with broken links and errors, text that does exist readably is close to complete nonsense. > Traffic over OmniEdge is end-to-end encrypted by Twofish/AES128/ChaCha20 cipers' P2P MESH network. I'm grasping at straws to find a single thing which looks legitimate about it. You'd have to be completely nuts to even begin looking into this as a solution for anything. If you're interested in what the technology behind this is, it's just a thin veneer of https://github.com/ntop/n2n https://github.com/ntop/n2n.
- 1ark 4y ago
  The GitHub page is better. https://github.com/omniedgeio/omniedge https://github.com/omniedgeio/omniedge
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- api 4y ago
  > Twofish/AES128/ChaCha20 Supporting Twofish is really bizarre. It's basically dead and would be slow compared to AES or ChaCha unless someone rolled their own SIMD implementation (why?). AES128 is weird too since 128-bit key ciphers are kind of deprecated unless your target is a fridge magnet. AES256 or ChaCha20 would be sane as they are both roughly equivalent security-wise (in practice, people will debate theory) and both still recommended for use in new stuff, but most cryptographers would recommend that you pick one and only one of these two for a new system unless something forces you to support both. So yeah, weirdness abounds here.
  - RL_Quine 4y ago
    Agreed. It's also super weird to have designed a new protocol that supports multiple cipher suites, it's very well established through the design of SSL and SSH now that there is absolutely no place for cipher negotiation in protocols.
nodomain 4y ago
Started from US, built globally. Not build. English-as-a-second-language speaker myself ;) I tend to derive trust that I put into a product from spelling errors, can't help.
EddySchauHai 4y ago
What the hell is a blockchain VPN? Pay per kb with 10s latency?
yongqianme 4y ago
Thank your for mentioning OmniEdge. Founder here. OmniEdge is founded by a single tweet from twitter. We are bringing everything into intranet. Computers, Cloud instances, MacBooks, Mobile Phones, Homelab servers, Docker containers, and Github action (https://github.com/marketplace/actions/omniedge-for-github-action https://github.com/marketplace/actions/omniedge-for-github-a...). OmniEdge is built by a global remote team. OmniEdge uses the N2N as the protocol, and is backed by the N2N team. The founder of N2N Luca is technical advisor of OmniEdge. We attended the ntopconf2022 in Italy, and gave a presentation. Go and check: https://www.ntop.org/ntopconf2022/ https://www.ntop.org/ntopconf2022/ Thanks.
yongqianme 4y ago
We just released OmniEdge for Github Action. So you can access nodes/devices from CI workflows. https://github.com/marketplace/actions/omniedge-for-github-action https://github.com/marketplace/actions/omniedge-for-github-a...

42 points by fariszr 4y ago

janandonly 4y ago

Reminds me of Hamachi VPN from ~15 years ago. https://vpn.net/ https://vpn.net/

barking_dog 4y ago
Oh, Hamachi. I started using n2n in some cases but nothing beat the simplicity of setting up Hamachi.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  maybe zerotier?
  - hyperionplays 4y ago
    +1 for zerotier
    - mobilio 4y ago
      +1 for ZeroTier. I've using it on few Linux boxes and Macs. Awesome service!

dankai 4y ago

How fast/performant is it in comparison to tailscale, nebula, and wireguard (kernel module) ?

deleted 4y ago

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peanut-walrus 4y ago

Wtf is a "Blockchain VPN" ?

_joel 4y ago
Not sure, seems to be more like DHT for peer discovery to me, but I really didn't spend a lot reading, hard pass from me.

RL_Quine 4y ago

Nothing about this website really gives a whole lot of confidence. It claims to be "Started from US", but the broken English that's prevalent on every single page says otherwise, there's no information about what company is supposedly behind its creation, and the webserver is behind cloudflare. Both the git repo and the website proper are filled with broken links and errors, text that does exist readably is close to complete nonsense. > Traffic over OmniEdge is end-to-end encrypted by Twofish/AES128/ChaCha20 cipers' P2P MESH network. I'm grasping at straws to find a single thing which looks legitimate about it. You'd have to be completely nuts to even begin looking into this as a solution for anything. If you're interested in what the technology behind this is, it's just a thin veneer of https://github.com/ntop/n2n https://github.com/ntop/n2n.

1ark 4y ago
The GitHub page is better. https://github.com/omniedgeio/omniedge https://github.com/omniedgeio/omniedge
- deleted 4y ago
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api 4y ago
> Twofish/AES128/ChaCha20 Supporting Twofish is really bizarre. It's basically dead and would be slow compared to AES or ChaCha unless someone rolled their own SIMD implementation (why?). AES128 is weird too since 128-bit key ciphers are kind of deprecated unless your target is a fridge magnet. AES256 or ChaCha20 would be sane as they are both roughly equivalent security-wise (in practice, people will debate theory) and both still recommended for use in new stuff, but most cryptographers would recommend that you pick one and only one of these two for a new system unless something forces you to support both. So yeah, weirdness abounds here.
- RL_Quine 4y ago
  Agreed. It's also super weird to have designed a new protocol that supports multiple cipher suites, it's very well established through the design of SSL and SSH now that there is absolutely no place for cipher negotiation in protocols.

nodomain 4y ago

Started from US, built globally. Not build. English-as-a-second-language speaker myself ;) I tend to derive trust that I put into a product from spelling errors, can't help.

EddySchauHai 4y ago

What the hell is a blockchain VPN? Pay per kb with 10s latency?

yongqianme 4y ago

Thank your for mentioning OmniEdge. Founder here. OmniEdge is founded by a single tweet from twitter. We are bringing everything into intranet. Computers, Cloud instances, MacBooks, Mobile Phones, Homelab servers, Docker containers, and Github action (https://github.com/marketplace/actions/omniedge-for-github-action https://github.com/marketplace/actions/omniedge-for-github-a...). OmniEdge is built by a global remote team. OmniEdge uses the N2N as the protocol, and is backed by the N2N team. The founder of N2N Luca is technical advisor of OmniEdge. We attended the ntopconf2022 in Italy, and gave a presentation. Go and check: https://www.ntop.org/ntopconf2022/ https://www.ntop.org/ntopconf2022/ Thanks.

yongqianme 4y ago

We just released OmniEdge for Github Action. So you can access nodes/devices from CI workflows. https://github.com/marketplace/actions/omniedge-for-github-action https://github.com/marketplace/actions/omniedge-for-github-a...