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my conjecture, having been a paperboy for a couple weeks max, really young 45ish years ago, is it's a ripoff. for at least 2 decades, any kid could sleep till

my conjecture, having been a paperboy for a couple weeks max, really young 45ish years ago, is it's a ripoff. for at least 2 decades, any kid could sleep till rested, wander to a nearby Starbucks, make something like 3x the salary per hour, and get benefits.

gav 4y ago
I was a paperboy for a year or so in the mid-90s, for today's equivalent of about $4/day I'd get up at 5:30am to get to the newspaper shop by 6am and deliver for maybe 30-45 mins. It's pretty miserable work in the winter, and probably a net-negative for a teenager to be missing that much sleep, but my parents believed it "built character".
- dekhn 4y ago
  I found the whole thing to be an excellent preparation for grad school.
mixmastamyk 4y ago
Benefits at Starbucks?
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Starbucks offers very competitive benefits to part time employees who work at least roughly ~20 hours per week (520hours/182 days*7days per week). Of course, the obligation is not comparable to delivering newspapers for an hour during the morning before school. https://www.starbucksbenefits.com/en-us/home/ https://www.starbucksbenefits.com/en-us/home/ https://www.starbucksbenefits.com/en-us/home/resources/eligibility/ https://www.starbucksbenefits.com/en-us/home/resources/eligi... >You establish initial benefits eligibility the first day of the second month after receiving at least 240 total hours over three full, consecutive months. Your total hours include both Benefits hours (BEN) to account for your paid hours and Leave of Absence hours (LOA) to account for time while on approved, eligible leave. >To continue eligibility, you must have at least 520 total hours on paychecks received between the first and last days in each six-month measurement period, for semi-annual audits on January 6 and July 6. >Occasionally, there may be fewer pay periods than usual in an audit measurement period. When this occurs, we will adjust your required total hours needed—it will still be 20 hours per week. Your total hours include both Benefits hours (BEN) to account for your paid hours and Leave of Absence hours (LOA) to account for time while on approved, eligible leave.
- hindsightbias 4y ago
  https://starbucks.asu.edu https://starbucks.asu.edu Relative is finishing in December, zero debt. Said they have >1000 graduates each year.
r_hoods_ghost 4y ago
Starbucks hires 12 year olds??? I mean, I know the US has lax labour laws but still... In the UK at least when I was growing up if you had a paper round you were probably 12-15 max. (This is the early 90s) After that age there were lots of better paid jobs. Working on the market, labouring, glass collecting in pubs, dealing, a little light b&e etc.
- jjtheblunt 4y ago
  good point : around here seems papers are delivered by people in cars, but yeah i was a little little guy with a bike.

gav 4y ago

I was a paperboy for a year or so in the mid-90s, for today's equivalent of about $4/day I'd get up at 5:30am to get to the newspaper shop by 6am and deliver for maybe 30-45 mins. It's pretty miserable work in the winter, and probably a net-negative for a teenager to be missing that much sleep, but my parents believed it "built character".

dekhn 4y ago
I found the whole thing to be an excellent preparation for grad school.

mixmastamyk 4y ago

Benefits at Starbucks?

lotsofpulp 4y ago
Starbucks offers very competitive benefits to part time employees who work at least roughly ~20 hours per week (520hours/182 days*7days per week). Of course, the obligation is not comparable to delivering newspapers for an hour during the morning before school. https://www.starbucksbenefits.com/en-us/home/ https://www.starbucksbenefits.com/en-us/home/ https://www.starbucksbenefits.com/en-us/home/resources/eligibility/ https://www.starbucksbenefits.com/en-us/home/resources/eligi... >You establish initial benefits eligibility the first day of the second month after receiving at least 240 total hours over three full, consecutive months. Your total hours include both Benefits hours (BEN) to account for your paid hours and Leave of Absence hours (LOA) to account for time while on approved, eligible leave. >To continue eligibility, you must have at least 520 total hours on paychecks received between the first and last days in each six-month measurement period, for semi-annual audits on January 6 and July 6. >Occasionally, there may be fewer pay periods than usual in an audit measurement period. When this occurs, we will adjust your required total hours needed—it will still be 20 hours per week. Your total hours include both Benefits hours (BEN) to account for your paid hours and Leave of Absence hours (LOA) to account for time while on approved, eligible leave.
hindsightbias 4y ago
https://starbucks.asu.edu https://starbucks.asu.edu Relative is finishing in December, zero debt. Said they have >1000 graduates each year.

r_hoods_ghost 4y ago

Starbucks hires 12 year olds??? I mean, I know the US has lax labour laws but still... In the UK at least when I was growing up if you had a paper round you were probably 12-15 max. (This is the early 90s) After that age there were lots of better paid jobs. Working on the market, labouring, glass collecting in pubs, dealing, a little light b&e etc.

jjtheblunt 4y ago
good point : around here seems papers are delivered by people in cars, but yeah i was a little little guy with a bike.