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Kind of wild to think that we have all these cities next to the Great Lakes and we're just sort of letting them decay.

by Bjorkbat 4y ago

brightball 4y ago
This is something that doesn't get talked about enough IMO.
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Scoundreller 4y ago
Only on the US side. On the Canadian side, it’s some of the least affordable property on the planet.
hotpotamus 4y ago
I've been thinking for a few years of where I want to ride out the climate apocalypse into my old age. Northern New Mexico or Colorado seem like ideal places to someone who currently lives in South Texas (I'm not a fan of the combo of heat and humidity and I really don't care to see what my limit is for wet bulb temperatures). The water question really seems like the big one though and yeah, I would think any state next to the largest freshwater bodies on Earth should seem appealing.
- taylodl 4y ago
  I was born and raised and currently live in one of the states bordering the Great Lakes, and as others here have pointed out, the climate is atrocious. At the moment I'm writing this comment the actual temperature is 91F, and the feels like is 100F. There's a heat advisory in effect. The humidity is such that you practically suffocate as soon as you step outside. In early to mid November the temperature will be in single digits with wind chills down below zero. For most of Winter the temperatures will be in the mid-teens to mid-twenties. The reason people stay is for Spring and Fall - but those seasons are disappearing, I believe due to climate change. Spring and Fall have now been reduced to a couple of weeks each. You essentially go from Winter into Summer and Summer into Fall. This year alone there were several days in "Spring" where the temperature varied by 40-50 degrees on a daily basis! That's simply insane! Not to mention making it difficult to manage your wardrobe! Okay, I need heavy winter coat and bulky knit sweaters and heavy jeans today, tomorrow I need shorts and a t-shirt. I can tell you I'm done with it. As I'm approaching retirement I've been thinking where I can move to that isn't quite so extreme. The Southwest is appealing, but the looming water crises is keeping me away. I'm also not interested in riding out hurricanes. I want to stay on the Eastern half of the U.S. since that's where most of my family is. The only option I've come up with is Tennessee, specifically the Chattanooga area. Why? The city is nestled along the Tennessee River and it's only 1.5 hours from Atlanta which has one of the busiest airports in the world - meaning I can get direct flights to just about everywhere in the country (can't do that very easily in the Midwest, almost all flights are connecting flights and so the airline ticket costs are quite expensive since you pay a tax on each landing and takeoff - and those taxes aren't cheap in the Midwest either since there's comparatively fewer flights).
everforward 4y ago
I lived near that area for a while, the climate is just awful. Cleveland's average lows are below the freezing point 5 months out of the year. It's basically a constant state of either snowing, or melted/compacted snow freezing into ice. Then spring comes around and it gets horribly hot. 3 months have average highs in the high 70s to low 80s. They also average 71% humidity; you will be sticky if you walk outside. It doesn't surprise me we're letting that area decay. I've moved around a few times, and I've never experienced a worse climate. I'd take Texas or Arizona heat over the Great Lakes without thinking twice.
- paulryanrogers 4y ago
  Living in greater Cleveland area for decades now. Though I do prefer it to tropics and south eastern states rocking 80-90% humidity. Skiing is weak around here and has been since the early oughts. Though the beaches and islands are nice, and changing seasons are refreshing. Every place has its pros and cons. I try to focus on the positive and do what I can about the negatives.

Kind of wild to think that we have all these cities next to the Great Lakes and we're just sort of letting them decay.

brightball 4y ago

This is something that doesn't get talked about enough IMO.

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Scoundreller 4y ago

Only on the US side. On the Canadian side, it’s some of the least affordable property on the planet.

hotpotamus 4y ago

I've been thinking for a few years of where I want to ride out the climate apocalypse into my old age. Northern New Mexico or Colorado seem like ideal places to someone who currently lives in South Texas (I'm not a fan of the combo of heat and humidity and I really don't care to see what my limit is for wet bulb temperatures). The water question really seems like the big one though and yeah, I would think any state next to the largest freshwater bodies on Earth should seem appealing.

taylodl 4y ago
I was born and raised and currently live in one of the states bordering the Great Lakes, and as others here have pointed out, the climate is atrocious. At the moment I'm writing this comment the actual temperature is 91F, and the feels like is 100F. There's a heat advisory in effect. The humidity is such that you practically suffocate as soon as you step outside. In early to mid November the temperature will be in single digits with wind chills down below zero. For most of Winter the temperatures will be in the mid-teens to mid-twenties. The reason people stay is for Spring and Fall - but those seasons are disappearing, I believe due to climate change. Spring and Fall have now been reduced to a couple of weeks each. You essentially go from Winter into Summer and Summer into Fall. This year alone there were several days in "Spring" where the temperature varied by 40-50 degrees on a daily basis! That's simply insane! Not to mention making it difficult to manage your wardrobe! Okay, I need heavy winter coat and bulky knit sweaters and heavy jeans today, tomorrow I need shorts and a t-shirt. I can tell you I'm done with it. As I'm approaching retirement I've been thinking where I can move to that isn't quite so extreme. The Southwest is appealing, but the looming water crises is keeping me away. I'm also not interested in riding out hurricanes. I want to stay on the Eastern half of the U.S. since that's where most of my family is. The only option I've come up with is Tennessee, specifically the Chattanooga area. Why? The city is nestled along the Tennessee River and it's only 1.5 hours from Atlanta which has one of the busiest airports in the world - meaning I can get direct flights to just about everywhere in the country (can't do that very easily in the Midwest, almost all flights are connecting flights and so the airline ticket costs are quite expensive since you pay a tax on each landing and takeoff - and those taxes aren't cheap in the Midwest either since there's comparatively fewer flights).

everforward 4y ago

I lived near that area for a while, the climate is just awful. Cleveland's average lows are below the freezing point 5 months out of the year. It's basically a constant state of either snowing, or melted/compacted snow freezing into ice. Then spring comes around and it gets horribly hot. 3 months have average highs in the high 70s to low 80s. They also average 71% humidity; you will be sticky if you walk outside. It doesn't surprise me we're letting that area decay. I've moved around a few times, and I've never experienced a worse climate. I'd take Texas or Arizona heat over the Great Lakes without thinking twice.

paulryanrogers 4y ago
Living in greater Cleveland area for decades now. Though I do prefer it to tropics and south eastern states rocking 80-90% humidity. Skiing is weak around here and has been since the early oughts. Though the beaches and islands are nice, and changing seasons are refreshing. Every place has its pros and cons. I try to focus on the positive and do what I can about the negatives.