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The "rest" that hates it is also a very vocal minority, probably even less than the 8-10%. Most people don't give a shit about it. Assuming the rest does is he

by ratww 4y ago

The "rest" that hates it is also a very vocal minority, probably even less than the 8-10%. Most people don't give a shit about it. Assuming the rest does is heavy projection.

namelessoracle 4y ago
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        ratww 4y ago
        No, your point is that unless I completely agree with you about some specific voting demographics that happens to be a pet theory of yours, then I'm wrong about something completely unrelated. Seems like you're knee deep in this shit and projecting your views in an entire country.
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coldtea 4y ago
>Most people don't give a shit about it. Yes, but the parent's point might still hold. You might not watch something because you hate the thing they put in (and that could be a minority), but you might not watch something also because "you don't give a shit" about the thing they put in - and want more of what you do like. I think the Ghostbusters remake is an example where people not hating woke ideologically, still dislike the movie, because they don't give a shit about the things the writers found so important...
- ratww 4y ago
  Thinking that film is bad isn't really "hating woke culture", though. In fact I know plenty of "woke" people who also think that it sucks. Some maybe semi-secretly. The film has plenty to be criticised.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    OK, take Captain Marvel, which is part run-of-the-mill Marvel movie, part lecture. A lot of people tune out because of that. Whereas they don't have any issue with a strong, feminist female lead like Ripley (were men are usually the laughing stock, and all die in the hands of the xenomorph due to incompetence).
    - ratww 4y ago
      Ah, I think I understand your point. Your point is that "stuff <10% of people will like" doesn't make up for a mediocre film, and studios are trying to capitalise on that rather than working on better stories. If so, I definitely agree.
- orwin 4y ago
  I've heard someone said "i usually care when the communication departement goes way too political: it usually mean that that the story is bad . In this case it was about video games, but i feel like it can be extended to TV shows and movies. There is a lot of good rather feminist TV shows who don't get touted as feminist (mostly YA and fantasy tbh). The one who tries to sold themselves on that though, are all bad. But i think this is transitory. In the 60s, when "La nouvelle vague" started to include different, new stereotypes (of women mostly, but of men too), there wasn't a lot of really good success in the beginning (to my eyes at least, the stereotypes were too much). They also had less money and couldn't afford to go wrong that many time, and eventually Truffaut got it right imho. Hollywood il bust, probably a lot, lot more than La nouvelle vague, but will start to get it right. Hopefully.

by ratww 4y ago

The "rest" that hates it is also a very vocal minority, probably even less than the 8-10%. Most people don't give a shit about it. Assuming the rest does is heavy projection.

namelessoracle 4y ago

ratww 4y ago
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        ratww 4y ago
        No, your point is that unless I completely agree with you about some specific voting demographics that happens to be a pet theory of yours, then I'm wrong about something completely unrelated. Seems like you're knee deep in this shit and projecting your views in an entire country.
        AndrewUnmuted 4y ago
        dang 4y ago
        Breaking the site guidelines like this will get you banned here. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines so badly and so often that we've banned the account. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32351713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32351713.
        dang 4y ago
        Breaking the site guidelines like this will get you banned here. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines in other places too. That's seriously not cool.
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coldtea 4y ago

>Most people don't give a shit about it. Yes, but the parent's point might still hold. You might not watch something because you hate the thing they put in (and that could be a minority), but you might not watch something also because "you don't give a shit" about the thing they put in - and want more of what you do like. I think the Ghostbusters remake is an example where people not hating woke ideologically, still dislike the movie, because they don't give a shit about the things the writers found so important...

ratww 4y ago
Thinking that film is bad isn't really "hating woke culture", though. In fact I know plenty of "woke" people who also think that it sucks. Some maybe semi-secretly. The film has plenty to be criticised.
- coldtea 4y ago
  OK, take Captain Marvel, which is part run-of-the-mill Marvel movie, part lecture. A lot of people tune out because of that. Whereas they don't have any issue with a strong, feminist female lead like Ripley (were men are usually the laughing stock, and all die in the hands of the xenomorph due to incompetence).
  - ratww 4y ago
    Ah, I think I understand your point. Your point is that "stuff <10% of people will like" doesn't make up for a mediocre film, and studios are trying to capitalise on that rather than working on better stories. If so, I definitely agree.
orwin 4y ago
I've heard someone said "i usually care when the communication departement goes way too political: it usually mean that that the story is bad . In this case it was about video games, but i feel like it can be extended to TV shows and movies. There is a lot of good rather feminist TV shows who don't get touted as feminist (mostly YA and fantasy tbh). The one who tries to sold themselves on that though, are all bad. But i think this is transitory. In the 60s, when "La nouvelle vague" started to include different, new stereotypes (of women mostly, but of men too), there wasn't a lot of really good success in the beginning (to my eyes at least, the stereotypes were too much). They also had less money and couldn't afford to go wrong that many time, and eventually Truffaut got it right imho. Hollywood il bust, probably a lot, lot more than La nouvelle vague, but will start to get it right. Hopefully.