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You can go from undergrad to phd???
by _8j50 4y ago
You can go from undergrad to phd???
- Fomite 4y agoI did, as did a number of my colleagues.
- LudwigNagasena 4y agoIn the US PhD often includes master's.
- chrisseaton 4y agoDoing a masters in between is usually I'd say a big waste of time and very inadvisable. If you're strong enough to start your PhD then just start it. And to literally answer your question - you don't need any kind of prior degree at all to start a PhD. I was recently investigating getting a gifted engineer onto a PhD programme without an undergraduate, and it was possible.
- nicoburns 4y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32329786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32329786
- chrisseaton 4y agoI know many people outside the US who did a PhD without any kind of masters. I did mine with a masters but no bachelors. It's even possible to be a full professor but not have any PhD. There's lots of options - don't force yourself to fit an arbitrary pipeline.
- _8j50 4y agoI can't believe I didn't know this, I thought yoy had to have masters before phd.
- urthor 4y agoOnly in Germany and a group of similarly minded countries. The Anglo-Saxon tradition is one of disorganised irreverence.
- jjgreen 4y agoEr, in the UK a masters is not required, and that's sort-of Anglo-Saxon
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- YeGoblynQueenne 4y agoThe thing is, if you don't have top grades or an exceptional background, most universities will expect you to have a Master's, instead. But if you do have top grades, or an exceptional background, then you can probably go straight into a PhD from high school, or anyway many universities will accept you. It matters a lot whom you have impressed with your skills, your knowledge and your dedication, it goes without saying, and by how much. Like in chrisseaton's comment above, they were investigating about a "gifted engineer" and I'm guessing they would have written a strong letter of recommendation for that candidate. So it may not be possible for everybody in practice, but in theory, it's possible.
- selimthegrim 4y agoIn the US this is not usual. I had one but I was changing fields.
- YeGoblynQueenne 4y agoIn retrospect, I'm making the mistake of generalising my experience with the UK system. I guess things are different elsewhere. To clarify, you had "one" of what? :)
- klyrs 4y agoThis depends on both the field of study and the country in question. In the US, for example, nobody gets a masters in math except as a terminal degree (sometimes, perhaps usually, a masters is a failed PhD attempt). In Canada, it is relatively rare for somebody to skip straight from undergrad to a math PhD.
- mr_mitm 4y agoIn the US you can enroll in either a master's program or a PhD program after obtaining the bachelor degree. Both count as graduate programs. The PhD program then usually takes as long as getting a masters degree and then a PhD in Germany, for example. PhD programs in natural sciences in Germany take around 3 years (can be longer), but the PhD program in the US for bachelor graduates takes 5-6 years.
- marcosdumay 4y agoSome countries impose (or almost impose) a masters in between. but it's more the exception than the rule. (Also, those countries tend to have shorter PhDs. So it's not exactly wasted time.)