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Their search has got pretty bad I've noticed. They've changed it to start showing random shit you might want to watch instead of the thing you actually searched
by dageshi 4y ago
Their search has got pretty bad I've noticed. They've changed it to start showing random shit you might want to watch instead of the thing you actually searched for after the first 10 or so videos. They seem to repeat videos they think you ought to watch quite often in search results as well.
Significant downgrade on what it used to be.
- ralusek 4y agoI've noticed this with Google, too. Particularly when searching for things in the past, it's like they adamantly don't want 3+ months ago to exist. I now have to archive news articles and the like because I know that I'm going to have an extremely hard time finding them later.
- orangepurple 4y agoRun them through archive.ph for good measure when you see them too
- hattmall 4y agoIf search works too good you are gone too quickly. Amazon figured this out A LOOOONG time ago. If Google makes you rephrase your search 10 times that 10x ads they can show you. If they take those opportunities to also drive you to crap sites that waste time but are heavily monetized by Google ads then that's even more for them. It's no different than grocery stores putting the most commonly purchased items all the way in the back. Want to run in and get milk? Maybe, we have 6 gallons that expire in the next 5 minutes up front, but if you want more you gotta walk past chips, beer, frozen pizzas and a wall of cheese. It's definitely an accelerating trend though, online search is getting so much worse and even fast food menus are insane now. You need to the app to see anything other than the most profitable combos in many cases.
- rightbyte 4y ago> even fast food menus are insane now They were really good when the kiosks were new, just like Google was. I guess PMs hunting local revenue growth but macro loss by spamming upsell and making what you want hard to find is a common problem with these luser uncentric systems.
- jhoechtl 4y agoYou nailed it. Couldn't phrase it any better.
- treeman79 4y agoIt used to be that I could find 5 to 10-year-old articles quickly on Google. Now it’s much harder. I’ve started keeping a log of every interesting article I find since I know I won’t be able to find it earlier. I’m also seeing a trend where they try and answer question and will pull from any source. The answer often being wildly wrong. Saw one of “people also ask” where the source was some dudes fanfiction so the suggested question and answer were complete non sense.
- GekkePrutser 4y agoI've found this too. And not only Google but also Bing/DDG. It's really annoying when trying to reference a past event in discussions
- avian 4y agoBad search that tries hard not to actually show you search results is another one of those dark trends I see everywhere. Have you seen Twitter search lately? The search tab in the app doesn't even have a text field visible by default. It's all just unrelated popular garbage. You have to swipe down to reveal the text field where you can enter your search term. Then you get more unrelated garbage in the "top" result tab and you need to go to one of the other tabs to actually see what you were searching for.
- coopierez 4y agoSearch on the iOS app store is awful too. You type in the exact name of the app you are looking for and have to scroll through 10-15 vaguely related results before you get to the one you actually want.
- majewsky 4y agoI usually get the result I want in the second slot. The first slot is always wrong because it's always an ad.
- throwaddzuzxd 4y agoAds should never be above perfect matches, this is misleading.
- pbhjpbhj 4y agoGoogle Play app store is similar IME; also, it doesn't even let you sort by ratings, like, isn't that the very first thing people want out of a curated store? It's like Amazon's search, it's ridiculous how bad it is. A quick glance at these shows Western Capitalism fails to optimise the market and instead optimises profit. Google's shopping search is definitely not designed to help one shop.
- Sharlin 4y agoThe most irritating thing about App Store search is that the text field doesn’t get focus by default. I hope it’s an unintentional mistake but as it’s never been fixed I have my doubts…
- ur-whale 4y ago> Their search has got pretty bad I've noticed YT search was never good (that I can recall). When I want to find content on YT, I use Google search with a site restrict [1]. Infinitely better. I invite you all to do the same and forget the YT search box. [1] something like : life of Albert Einstein site:youtube.com
- GekkePrutser 4y agoVery ironic that you have to use Google to get decent results in YouTube. The knowledge is in the same company just not applied consistently.
- ur-whale 4y agoAs is often forgotten on HN, a company is nothing but a bunch of people, each with their own incentives and political dominions to defend. We like to think of a company as one entity and assign to it some sort of anthropomorphic aspect, but that's just a dumbed-down simplification our minds like to make to make dealing with the world easier. Especially for a company as large as Google, were political infighting between product verticals are a documented problem. In that regard, it is not ironic at all, there is no such thing as consistency in such a large human organization. Hell, even the army is not capable of doing this properly.
- CommanderData 4y agoI've stopped using search as it's filled with non relevant content, great job messing with one thing the company was known for, search.
- greenknight 4y agoI google the video that i want now, instead of using the youtube search
- jobigoud 4y agoInteresting since they are managed by the same company. But I'm not even sure Google is the best search engine for Youtube or video content in general.
- causi 4y agoYes. God help you if you're looking for a video not made by a popular youtuber. Saw an amazing fried chicken recipe ten years ago and think you can just scroll the results until you see it? Ha, fat chance. You've got about five results and then nothing but whatever horseshit is trendy today.
- grepfru_it 4y agoI started using a bookmark service because of this. And after I wrote that sentence I found the original video I was thinking about with a google search. Welp.
- ugjka 4y agoArchive everything you like with tools like yt-dlp
- philistine 4y agoIts ability to use cookies from your browser is so much better than the original yt-dl it’s not even funny.
- causi 4y agoDoes yt-dlp support downloading a whole channel at the highest available resolution when that might be different for every video?
- ugjka 4y agoAfaik it downloads the highest quality by default
- grepfru_it 4y agoI rip videos but I don’t have a good archival story. Thanks for the yt-dlp tip!
- JKCalhoun 4y agoAdd it to a playlist (or bookmark it). I don't trust the videos to still be up when I might be interested in them so I've become a little bit of a data hoarder.
- birdyrooster 4y agoTry yewtu.be it’s like definitely better search on invidious.
- andsoitis 4y ago> the thing you actually searched for after the first 10 or so videos. Isn't that a good thing? If you searched for something and the first 10 results aren't a match, why not introduce you to other things (one can experiment with finding how closely related those additional recommendations are, or based on other things you recently enjoyed, etc.)?
- dageshi 4y agoNot really, if what you're looking for is newer or less popular videos on a particular topic because you've already watched the most popular ones.
- hither_shores 4y ago> why not introduce you to other things Because that's not what I told it to do.
- janitor61 4y agoNot an expert on this, but I get the feeling they're trying to dissuade people from discovering videos with lower view counts in search results, since these videos are less likely to be cached at the CDN nodes and are more expensive to serve, i.e. budget cuts, like everything else