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Winamp is officially back because '90s nostalgia knows no bounds

16 points by chazeon 4y ago

Rackedup 4y ago
xmmp is nice but I wish we had Linamp ... because I don't want to use Windows and Winamp was the best media player ever made.
themodelplumber 4y ago
Fascinating to see this today! Things I found interesting to consider: - They are integrating NFTs into their marketing (to some this is amazing; to others kind of the opposite) - The default look goes all the way back, it seems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTrwP2eDRKQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTrwP2eDRKQ - QMMP, similar to WinAMP with a lot of nice features, has a Qt 6 branch that is stable now http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/ http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/ My top 5 favorite WinAmp / QMMP skins: - Benuamp Silver https://archive.org/details/winampskin_BenuAmp_Silver https://archive.org/details/winampskin_BenuAmp_Silver - nuance-green https://archive.org/details/winampskin_nuance_green https://archive.org/details/winampskin_nuance_green - LightWave8 https://archive.org/details/winampskin_LightWave8 https://archive.org/details/winampskin_LightWave8 - DarkPi v2 https://archive.org/details/winampskin_DarkPi_v2 https://archive.org/details/winampskin_DarkPi_v2 - calculator https://archive.org/details/winampskins_calculator https://archive.org/details/winampskins_calculator
_int3_ 4y ago
I think lots of 90s software for windows 98, etc. is lost. ( can't be run on modern 64-bit windows)
- brutal_chaos_ 4y ago
  What about with wine? I haven't tried, but could old 16bit apps run in wine on windows x64?
  - LocalH 4y ago
    https://github.com/otya128/winevdm https://github.com/otya128/winevdm
  - hulitu 4y ago
    Winamp is 32 bit
- LocalH 4y ago
  That's not why a lot of software is lost. A lot of software is lost because nobody bothered to back it up. There are many ways around not being able to run a program on modern Windows.
  - _int3_ 4y ago
    Now days you can't back up someone's software, even if you want to. ( Because of DRM and cloud.) And problem will only get worse. To prevent software entropy and rot it should be built on healthy foundation.
    - LocalH 4y ago
      With the exception of cloud gaming (which is a particularly nasty thing for preservation), fortunately people still back them up anyway. It's not ideal because cracking is not a 1:1 binary in a preservation sense, but fortunately in many cases the original media can be backed up 1:1 and any necessary crack can be distributed for separate installation. Even if a pre-cracked version is the only thing that survives long term, it's still better than nothing.
hulitu 4y ago
> Winamp is officially back because '90s nostalgia knows no bounds No. Because a goog SW is a good SW. I want to listen to my music in a particular order. I do not want the SW to search for media files ( i don't want my porn collection in the playlist). Winamp and xmms do what a player shall do: play.

16 points by chazeon 4y ago

xmmp is nice but I wish we had Linamp ... because I don't want to use Windows and Winamp was the best media player ever made.

themodelplumber 4y ago

Fascinating to see this today! Things I found interesting to consider: - They are integrating NFTs into their marketing (to some this is amazing; to others kind of the opposite) - The default look goes all the way back, it seems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTrwP2eDRKQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTrwP2eDRKQ - QMMP, similar to WinAMP with a lot of nice features, has a Qt 6 branch that is stable now http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/ http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/ My top 5 favorite WinAmp / QMMP skins: - Benuamp Silver https://archive.org/details/winampskin_BenuAmp_Silver https://archive.org/details/winampskin_BenuAmp_Silver - nuance-green https://archive.org/details/winampskin_nuance_green https://archive.org/details/winampskin_nuance_green - LightWave8 https://archive.org/details/winampskin_LightWave8 https://archive.org/details/winampskin_LightWave8 - DarkPi v2 https://archive.org/details/winampskin_DarkPi_v2 https://archive.org/details/winampskin_DarkPi_v2 - calculator https://archive.org/details/winampskins_calculator https://archive.org/details/winampskins_calculator

_int3_ 4y ago

I think lots of 90s software for windows 98, etc. is lost. ( can't be run on modern 64-bit windows)

brutal_chaos_ 4y ago
What about with wine? I haven't tried, but could old 16bit apps run in wine on windows x64?
- LocalH 4y ago
  https://github.com/otya128/winevdm https://github.com/otya128/winevdm
- hulitu 4y ago
  Winamp is 32 bit
LocalH 4y ago
That's not why a lot of software is lost. A lot of software is lost because nobody bothered to back it up. There are many ways around not being able to run a program on modern Windows.
- _int3_ 4y ago
  Now days you can't back up someone's software, even if you want to. ( Because of DRM and cloud.) And problem will only get worse. To prevent software entropy and rot it should be built on healthy foundation.
  - LocalH 4y ago
    With the exception of cloud gaming (which is a particularly nasty thing for preservation), fortunately people still back them up anyway. It's not ideal because cracking is not a 1:1 binary in a preservation sense, but fortunately in many cases the original media can be backed up 1:1 and any necessary crack can be distributed for separate installation. Even if a pre-cracked version is the only thing that survives long term, it's still better than nothing.

hulitu 4y ago

> Winamp is officially back because '90s nostalgia knows no bounds No. Because a goog SW is a good SW. I want to listen to my music in a particular order. I do not want the SW to search for media files ( i don't want my porn collection in the playlist). Winamp and xmms do what a player shall do: play.