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The government banning _Wired_ because it contained a critical article immediately confirms so much of the criticism.
by jonathaneunice 4y ago
The government banning _Wired_ because it contained a critical article immediately confirms so much of the criticism.
- googlryas 4y ago
- Iv 4y agoYou are not a journalist and I am not a state.
- shiftpgdn 4y agoWhat makes a journalist?
- whoooooo123 4y agoPutting "journalist" in your Twitter bio, at least by 2022 standards.
- dsr_ 4y agoSocial convention; intent and history.
- aemreunal 4y agoI don't think the example you gave holds. This is how I would characterize that: Blocking someone = not buying Wired magazine so you can't read it yourself Banning someone from the internet = banning Wired magazine so no one can ever read it
- googlryas 4y agoMaybe my example was poorly done, but I think it shares the same reasoning flaw that OP had in the original - the belief that a very strong denial is somehow evidence of guilt. I saw similar logic in a COVID thread recently, with someone saying essentially that the lab leak theory must be true, because China is denying it so hard. Well, that's what innocent people do too when they're wrongly accused of something.
- solveit 4y agoBanning the publication of media when accused of illiberalism is in fact evidence of illiberalism.
- googlryas 4y agoThe article did much more than accuse them of illiberalism. It isn't clear which claim lead to the article being banned...or even that it was banned (I assume it was, but I can't find a copy of the source, and the source is a wired article ostensibly about Negroponte). I actually probably have the Mar 1995 Wired at my parents house on my book shelf, but unfortunately that is 3000 miles away.
- function_seven 4y ago> the belief that a very strong denial is somehow evidence of guilt. That's not the evidence of guilt. They can deny it as often and as strongly as they want. When they instead ban the article in their country, then it's doing the thing they deny they do.
- googlryas 4y agoWhen did Singapore claim they don't censor media? There is an entire agency (IMDA) devoted to censoring media, and it isn't some kind of covert operation.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago> with someone saying essentially that the lab leak theory must be true, because China is denying it so hard. The Chinese media often denies rumors that turn out to be true, for example, a week before Beijing instituted a car plate lottery, the local media was busy denying that it was going to happen (since everyone was rushing out to buy cars). If they took the time to deny something, then there has to be something to it right? But this is more like given a conspiracy theory some life by vigorously denying it. If China were more western media savvy, they would just ignore the claim as too crazy to comment on. IF the USA did similar vigorous denials (since it has been suggested that the CIA engineered the virus in the lab in the USA) did the same, I'm sure people would be talking about that also.
- cma 4y agoI thought blocking someone prevents them from replying to your tweets, and doesn't just prevent you from reading their tweets.
- CobrastanJorji 4y agoThe difference, of course, is that in your metaphor the reaction is not related to the critique. If I created a website called "Singapore Loves Shooting Critics" and Singapore responded by shooting me, that would be seen as confirmation of the critique. If I created a website called "Singapore Loves Square Dancing" and Singapore responded by shooting me, that would be an overreaction but not one that related to the criticism.
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- Ferrotin 4y agoThe U.S. also limits foreign control of its media.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago> The government banning _Wired_ because it contained a critical article immediately confirms so much of the criticism. and then > The U.S. also limits foreign control of its media. Beyond an attempt at a what aboutism, I'm not sure how these two statements are really connected. Just because Xinhua can't purchase Foxnews (which is ironically controlled by an Australian), the USA government lacks the legal power to ban anything except maybe child porn.
- Ferrotin 4y agoWired is foreign media in Singapore. This isn’t what-about-ism — I am defending Singapore’s practice of banning foreign media that decides to have a say in how the country should be run.