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Rules of thumb: 1. Don't buy meals; buy ingredients. 2. The longer the list of ingredients, the more likely it is to be "highly" processed 3. The way you

Rules of thumb: 1. Don't buy meals; buy ingredients. 2. The longer the list of ingredients, the more likely it is to be "highly" processed 3. The way you avoid 'highly' processed stuff is to avoid processing altogether. Buy corn you have to husk, meat you have to cut, fish you have to filet, wine you have to uncork, bread you have to slice, etc.

cortesoft 4y ago
> Buy corn you have to husk, meat you have to cut, fish you have to filet, wine you have to uncork, bread you have to slice, etc. Ok, this is just silly. Cutting your own meat doesn't make it healthier than having a butcher cut it for you. Box wine is no more or less healthy than bottled wine with a cork. Slicing bread yourself doesn't change its health contents. Its statements like these that make the whole argument seem like nonsense.
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
  These practices listed correlate with ultraprocessing though. Pre-sliced bread is more likely to be processed in other ways, too, than bread loaves. It's a heuristic.
- omginternets 4y ago
  It's a rule of thumb, friend. It actually does make a difference in the aggregate, as evidenced by the extra ingredients you will find in pre-processed supermarket meat. Have a look at what's in your hot dogs, for example. Obvious exceptions apply, such as going to the butcher, as you have astutely observed. These do not invalidate the rule-of-thumb.
  - samatman 4y ago
    The issue is rather that nothing in your rule-of-thumb works. Frozen corn vs whole corn? Were you planning to eat the cob? Does it help my diet to cut corn kernels off manually? How? Meat you have to cut? Maybe you're thinking hot dogs here, my first thought was ground beef. Does breaking out the meat grinder, and cleaning it, help me eat right? How? Fish you have to filet? Can I just buy the filets? Or is it 100% necessary that fish skin rot in my garbage can. Boxed wine? Generally I consider corked wine undrinkable, and I struggle to think what other contribution a cork per se can offer to wine. Sliced bread? I mean. Look it's a really bad set of rules so I'll have mercy here, the kind of bread which is available only sliced is not great for you, so at least here I can infer your meaning. Not that it matters because the #1 source of extra pounds on my waist is whole loaves of sourdough bread. I slice them myself.
    - omginternets 4y ago
      Yes, it requires some discernment, as do most rules-of-thumb. There is no algorithm, here.
nonethewiser 4y ago
Don't buy non-spoiled. Buy fresh.

cortesoft 4y ago

> Buy corn you have to husk, meat you have to cut, fish you have to filet, wine you have to uncork, bread you have to slice, etc. Ok, this is just silly. Cutting your own meat doesn't make it healthier than having a butcher cut it for you. Box wine is no more or less healthy than bottled wine with a cork. Slicing bread yourself doesn't change its health contents. Its statements like these that make the whole argument seem like nonsense.

hypertele-Xii 4y ago
These practices listed correlate with ultraprocessing though. Pre-sliced bread is more likely to be processed in other ways, too, than bread loaves. It's a heuristic.
omginternets 4y ago
It's a rule of thumb, friend. It actually does make a difference in the aggregate, as evidenced by the extra ingredients you will find in pre-processed supermarket meat. Have a look at what's in your hot dogs, for example. Obvious exceptions apply, such as going to the butcher, as you have astutely observed. These do not invalidate the rule-of-thumb.
- samatman 4y ago
  The issue is rather that nothing in your rule-of-thumb works. Frozen corn vs whole corn? Were you planning to eat the cob? Does it help my diet to cut corn kernels off manually? How? Meat you have to cut? Maybe you're thinking hot dogs here, my first thought was ground beef. Does breaking out the meat grinder, and cleaning it, help me eat right? How? Fish you have to filet? Can I just buy the filets? Or is it 100% necessary that fish skin rot in my garbage can. Boxed wine? Generally I consider corked wine undrinkable, and I struggle to think what other contribution a cork per se can offer to wine. Sliced bread? I mean. Look it's a really bad set of rules so I'll have mercy here, the kind of bread which is available only sliced is not great for you, so at least here I can infer your meaning. Not that it matters because the #1 source of extra pounds on my waist is whole loaves of sourdough bread. I slice them myself.
  - omginternets 4y ago
    Yes, it requires some discernment, as do most rules-of-thumb. There is no algorithm, here.

nonethewiser 4y ago

Don't buy non-spoiled. Buy fresh.