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There are a wide variety of heavily promoted dietary identities - from vegan to carnivore - but I'm convinced that in terms of one's health, eliminating these p

There are a wide variety of heavily promoted dietary identities - from vegan to carnivore - but I'm convinced that in terms of one's health, eliminating these processed food items from one's diet is the one that has the most long-term benefits. The only downside is that relying only on 'real food' ingredients requires a fair amount of cooking, but the effort is well worth the payback. There's no snappy one-word term for this dietary choice, maybe someone could come up with one.

oh_my_goodness 4y ago
I've heard "Eat food. Not too much." as a slogan for this.
- jonah 4y ago
  The full quote is: “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.” ― Michael Pollan, In Defense of Food: An Eater's Manifesto https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/18508-eat-food-not-too-much-mostly-plants https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/18508-eat-food-not-too-much...
omginternets 4y ago
Incidentally, I think this is also why many extreme diets seem to have some evidence in favor of their health benefits. From where I'm standing, it seems like veganism/paleo/etc start being linked to various problems right around the time the agro industry starts cranking out specialized (read: highly-processed) products. Relatedly: I'm taking bets regarding lab-grown meat.
- garettmd 4y ago
  Which direction are you betting on lab-grown meats?
  - omginternets 4y ago
    I'm betting they go in the same direction as margarine.
    - drooby 4y ago
      Does Meati change your mind? This startup is growing a specific species of fungus that is high protein and vitamin rich. I haven’t tried it but reviews so far are saying it cooks, tastes and feels like meat.
      - omginternets 4y ago
        That's not exactly lab-grown meat. But to your question, it's hard to take bets on individual things, so I'll answer this way: I'll bet against anything lab-grown or highly processed (Meati included), and I expect to make money on average. Time will tell :)
        drooby 4y ago
        How is it highly processed? They are mass producing a naturally growing fungus, not unlike farming mushrooms. They seem to be adding some seasonings and sodium before packaging but thats not "processing" exactly.
        omginternets 4y ago
        It's transformed from its naturally-occurring aspect into something resembling the texture of meat. That is processing. I suspect that it's also a non-trivial amount of processing, but I could be wrong. Contrast this with grabbing a handful of chanterelles and putting them in a bag.
drooby 4y ago
I believe a Whole-Food Diet is the term for a non-processed diet.
nonethewiser 4y ago
> There are a wide variety of heavily promoted dietary identities - from vegan to carnivore - but I'm convinced that in terms of one's health, eliminating these processed food items from one's diet is the one that has the most long-term benefits. What has you convinced? I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm curious if you're relying on anything more than intuition. I don't think intuition is worthless, for whatever it's worth. Seems like a pretty common-sense idea that non-fresh foods could have adverse effects. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a major factor in increased rates of cancer, which is surely a combination of many mild factors that accumulate over a long period of time.

oh_my_goodness 4y ago

I've heard "Eat food. Not too much." as a slogan for this.

jonah 4y ago
The full quote is: “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.” ― Michael Pollan, In Defense of Food: An Eater's Manifesto https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/18508-eat-food-not-too-much-mostly-plants https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/18508-eat-food-not-too-much...

omginternets 4y ago

Incidentally, I think this is also why many extreme diets seem to have some evidence in favor of their health benefits. From where I'm standing, it seems like veganism/paleo/etc start being linked to various problems right around the time the agro industry starts cranking out specialized (read: highly-processed) products. Relatedly: I'm taking bets regarding lab-grown meat.

garettmd 4y ago
Which direction are you betting on lab-grown meats?
- omginternets 4y ago
  I'm betting they go in the same direction as margarine.
  - drooby 4y ago
    Does Meati change your mind? This startup is growing a specific species of fungus that is high protein and vitamin rich. I haven’t tried it but reviews so far are saying it cooks, tastes and feels like meat.
    - omginternets 4y ago
      That's not exactly lab-grown meat. But to your question, it's hard to take bets on individual things, so I'll answer this way: I'll bet against anything lab-grown or highly processed (Meati included), and I expect to make money on average. Time will tell :)
      - drooby 4y ago
        How is it highly processed? They are mass producing a naturally growing fungus, not unlike farming mushrooms. They seem to be adding some seasonings and sodium before packaging but thats not "processing" exactly.
        omginternets 4y ago
        It's transformed from its naturally-occurring aspect into something resembling the texture of meat. That is processing. I suspect that it's also a non-trivial amount of processing, but I could be wrong. Contrast this with grabbing a handful of chanterelles and putting them in a bag.

drooby 4y ago

I believe a Whole-Food Diet is the term for a non-processed diet.

nonethewiser 4y ago

> There are a wide variety of heavily promoted dietary identities - from vegan to carnivore - but I'm convinced that in terms of one's health, eliminating these processed food items from one's diet is the one that has the most long-term benefits. What has you convinced? I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm curious if you're relying on anything more than intuition. I don't think intuition is worthless, for whatever it's worth. Seems like a pretty common-sense idea that non-fresh foods could have adverse effects. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a major factor in increased rates of cancer, which is surely a combination of many mild factors that accumulate over a long period of time.