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If sanctions were to remain after this war ends, how would they be useful as deterrent? Or how would they encourage the war to end any sooner?

by ndr 4y ago

nradov 4y ago
The main point of sanctions isn't to act as a deterrent, but rather to weaken the Russian economy and slow down their weapons production.
- yogthos 4y ago
  Russia is currently making more money from energy exports than they did last year, please explain the logic here...
  - nradov 4y ago
    You're missing the point. Removing the sanctions wouldn't cause Russia to make less money from energy exports. The sanctions make it more difficult to Russia to import what they need to keep their military-industrial complex running. This is having at least some effect: intelligence sources indicate that their production rate for critical items such as tanks has slowed down.
    - yogthos 4y ago
      There is no evidence to support the claim that the sanctions make it more difficult for Russia to import what they need or that the sanctions have slowed down Russian military-industrial complex in any way. In fact, a British military think tank recently showed that Russia's military industrial complex is ahead of what the west is able to muster https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/return-industrial-warfare/ https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/comme... It's also completely absurd to think that Russia would have problems importing anything they can't make domestically given that India and China are backing them.
tomjen3 4y ago
Sanctions don't deter, because leaders always gets around them and don't care about the little guy. See NK. What sanctions do is prevent countries from building effective armies. See blocking Russia from getting enough good steel, which means they can't shoot for as long or as well. See not getting modern microchips, which means they cannot make drones or missiles. The sanctions must remain until Russia is much different. Otherwise this will just become another episode in the long war series.
- StanislavPetrov 4y ago
  - namaria 4y ago
    Anyone dismissing access to Swift network as superfluous makes it clear their opinion should have no bearing in analyzing strategy.

If sanctions were to remain after this war ends, how would they be useful as deterrent? Or how would they encourage the war to end any sooner?

by ndr 4y ago

If sanctions were to remain after this war ends, how would they be useful as deterrent? Or how would they encourage the war to end any sooner?

nradov 4y ago

The main point of sanctions isn't to act as a deterrent, but rather to weaken the Russian economy and slow down their weapons production.

yogthos 4y ago
Russia is currently making more money from energy exports than they did last year, please explain the logic here...
- nradov 4y ago
  You're missing the point. Removing the sanctions wouldn't cause Russia to make less money from energy exports. The sanctions make it more difficult to Russia to import what they need to keep their military-industrial complex running. This is having at least some effect: intelligence sources indicate that their production rate for critical items such as tanks has slowed down.
  - yogthos 4y ago
    There is no evidence to support the claim that the sanctions make it more difficult for Russia to import what they need or that the sanctions have slowed down Russian military-industrial complex in any way. In fact, a British military think tank recently showed that Russia's military industrial complex is ahead of what the west is able to muster https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/return-industrial-warfare/ https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/comme... It's also completely absurd to think that Russia would have problems importing anything they can't make domestically given that India and China are backing them.

tomjen3 4y ago

Sanctions don't deter, because leaders always gets around them and don't care about the little guy. See NK. What sanctions do is prevent countries from building effective armies. See blocking Russia from getting enough good steel, which means they can't shoot for as long or as well. See not getting modern microchips, which means they cannot make drones or missiles. The sanctions must remain until Russia is much different. Otherwise this will just become another episode in the long war series.

StanislavPetrov 4y ago
- namaria 4y ago
  Anyone dismissing access to Swift network as superfluous makes it clear their opinion should have no bearing in analyzing strategy.