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I find it asonishing that only now I learn that radioactive waste stays much longer radioactive than being dangerous. Also other good arguments are put forward

I find it asonishing that only now I learn that radioactive waste stays much longer radioactive than being dangerous. Also other good arguments are put forward by normalizing material costs VS expected energy production capacity.

p1esk 4y ago
radioactive waste stays much longer radioactive than being dangerous If it’s radioactive it’s dangerous. The article points out that radioactive waste doesn’t stay radioactive for very long, contrary to what is commonly believed.
- stefan_ 4y ago
  Radioactive sources have all kinds of applications in industry and medicine. If you have been to the dentist, you have probably been near one. They are dangerous in the same sense that a falling brick is dangerous.
  - timr 4y ago
    Come to New York to see the extent to which a fearful people will go to prevent the danger from falling bricks. [1] /s I'm joking here, but the joke underscores a painful truth: an irrationally fearful, small group of people seem to be able to utterly paralyze democratic society, and this pathology seems to be worse in societies that self-identify as focused on collective good. People who define themselves by their own idealism are easily sidetracked by hypothetical risks. As for New York, it isn't entirely unrelated that they're shutting down their one remaining nuclear plant (and as a result, dramatically increasing NYCs dependency on fossil fuels) [2]. [1] https://www.6sqft.com/the-number-of-sidewalk-sheds-in-nyc-has-tripled-over-past-two-decades/ https://www.6sqft.com/the-number-of-sidewalk-sheds-in-nyc-ha... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/12/nyregion/indian-point-power-plant-closing.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/12/nyregion/indian-point-pow...
  - p1esk 4y ago
    I’m sorry, are you questioning the fact that exposure to strong gamma radiation would kill you? What are you talking about?
    - stefan_ 4y ago
      It can kill you like taking a fork to the nearest power outlet can kill you. Do you suggest we get rid of them? Of course not. They are risks to be managed, and history suggests the risk is fantastically low.
      - p1esk 4y ago
        How is this relevant? Did you read JanisErdmanis’ comment I responded to?
- ThrowawayTestr 4y ago
  Bananas are radioactive and not dangerous.
  - p1esk 4y ago
    In the context of a discussion about nuclear reactors bananas are not radioactive.

p1esk 4y ago

radioactive waste stays much longer radioactive than being dangerous If it’s radioactive it’s dangerous. The article points out that radioactive waste doesn’t stay radioactive for very long, contrary to what is commonly believed.

stefan_ 4y ago
Radioactive sources have all kinds of applications in industry and medicine. If you have been to the dentist, you have probably been near one. They are dangerous in the same sense that a falling brick is dangerous.
- timr 4y ago
  Come to New York to see the extent to which a fearful people will go to prevent the danger from falling bricks. [1] /s I'm joking here, but the joke underscores a painful truth: an irrationally fearful, small group of people seem to be able to utterly paralyze democratic society, and this pathology seems to be worse in societies that self-identify as focused on collective good. People who define themselves by their own idealism are easily sidetracked by hypothetical risks. As for New York, it isn't entirely unrelated that they're shutting down their one remaining nuclear plant (and as a result, dramatically increasing NYCs dependency on fossil fuels) [2]. [1] https://www.6sqft.com/the-number-of-sidewalk-sheds-in-nyc-has-tripled-over-past-two-decades/ https://www.6sqft.com/the-number-of-sidewalk-sheds-in-nyc-ha... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/12/nyregion/indian-point-power-plant-closing.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/12/nyregion/indian-point-pow...
- p1esk 4y ago
  I’m sorry, are you questioning the fact that exposure to strong gamma radiation would kill you? What are you talking about?
  - stefan_ 4y ago
    It can kill you like taking a fork to the nearest power outlet can kill you. Do you suggest we get rid of them? Of course not. They are risks to be managed, and history suggests the risk is fantastically low.
    - p1esk 4y ago
      How is this relevant? Did you read JanisErdmanis’ comment I responded to?
ThrowawayTestr 4y ago
Bananas are radioactive and not dangerous.
- p1esk 4y ago
  In the context of a discussion about nuclear reactors bananas are not radioactive.