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Have you tried storing the list lately? I don't think you have a 10TB plus flash drive. https://etherscan.io/chartsync/chainarchive https://etherscan.io/charts

Have you tried storing the list lately? I don't think you have a 10TB plus flash drive. https://etherscan.io/chartsync/chainarchive https://etherscan.io/chartsync/chainarchive Crypto is more and more centralised because the hardware to run your own node is now thousands of dollars. That is without even getting into miners...It is kinda failing.

influxmoment 4y ago
That's Ethereum. Largely was consider a bad ideas because it's too large to independently validate
- testesttest 4y ago
  Name a main stream one that is easy? I run archive nodes for SOL, ETH, Polygon, others.
  - mhluongo 4y ago
    Bitcoin.
- MBCook 4y ago
  You’re right. 324 GB is far more manageable. Their point is totally invalid.
  - influxmoment 4y ago
    Agreed. 324GB and this level of growth is manageable and can be done with a raspberry pi and an ssd
yokem55 4y ago
This chart is kind of dated and misleading at the moment. 1) You don't need an archive node to fully verify the current state of the chain. A full geth node in full sync mode (about 600gb) will process every transaction of every block and get you the current state. You only need an archive node if you want the history of each account and contract separately indexed. 2) Folks that do want an archive node can now use much more space efficient clients then geth such as erigon (1.4tb) or besu (1.2 tb) if they want to run a block explorer or query the state of an account in the past.
- testesttest 4y ago
  1) you need an archive node to get historical events which is the only way to do lots of things. E.g. scrape all NFTs 2) Erigon has horrible bugs and is missing data. I filled a ticket against one such issue and they "fixed" it by making the exception go away and returning null. Their lack of attention to detail made me abandon the project. If you know someone in the project I can produce MANY examples and would be willing to do so because running an archive geth node sucks.
  - yokem55 4y ago
    I don't know any of them directly. But they do have an email on their github readme that you can send a request to for an invite to their discord. And if they don't respond on that, you can reach many of them in the Eth R&D discord.

influxmoment 4y ago

That's Ethereum. Largely was consider a bad ideas because it's too large to independently validate

testesttest 4y ago
Name a main stream one that is easy? I run archive nodes for SOL, ETH, Polygon, others.
- mhluongo 4y ago
  Bitcoin.
MBCook 4y ago
You’re right. 324 GB is far more manageable. Their point is totally invalid.
- influxmoment 4y ago
  Agreed. 324GB and this level of growth is manageable and can be done with a raspberry pi and an ssd

yokem55 4y ago

This chart is kind of dated and misleading at the moment. 1) You don't need an archive node to fully verify the current state of the chain. A full geth node in full sync mode (about 600gb) will process every transaction of every block and get you the current state. You only need an archive node if you want the history of each account and contract separately indexed. 2) Folks that do want an archive node can now use much more space efficient clients then geth such as erigon (1.4tb) or besu (1.2 tb) if they want to run a block explorer or query the state of an account in the past.

testesttest 4y ago
1) you need an archive node to get historical events which is the only way to do lots of things. E.g. scrape all NFTs 2) Erigon has horrible bugs and is missing data. I filled a ticket against one such issue and they "fixed" it by making the exception go away and returning null. Their lack of attention to detail made me abandon the project. If you know someone in the project I can produce MANY examples and would be willing to do so because running an archive geth node sucks.
- yokem55 4y ago
  I don't know any of them directly. But they do have an email on their github readme that you can send a request to for an invite to their discord. And if they don't respond on that, you can reach many of them in the Eth R&D discord.