> Isn't that true, though? Violence is sometimes necessary. It's doesn't need to be strictly true. This isn't a mathematical proof, but a behavior used to infl

> Isn't that true, though? Violence is sometimes necessary. It's doesn't need to be strictly true. This isn't a mathematical proof, but a behavior used to influence other behavior. > Teaching a child that violence is never necessary is just as bad as teaching the child that violence is always necessary. I'm not sure what kind of thinking leads you to this conclusion, nor is it clear what this statement means if I'm being open about it. "Violence is always necessary"? If someone doesn't get out of your way you are supposed to shove them? If someone honks their horn at you, you should smash their windshield? If someone tells you something you don't like you punch them? You'd never learn anything of substance with this viewpoint. violence is never necessary != violence is always necessary The tradeoffs for survival (much less society) are unequal.