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I grew up in a place and time where everyday life was permeated by a constant threat of violence. What I can tell you from my experience is that idea of minor r

I grew up in a place and time where everyday life was permeated by a constant threat of violence. What I can tell you from my experience is that idea of minor retaliatory violence is kind of ridiculous. The thing about violence and retaliation is that it can and will escalate very fast. What are you going to do when you tap them on the knuckles and they come back blasting? My advice is that you should avoid violence unless backed into a corner and all other options are exhausted.

mihaic 4y ago
It sounds as if you lived in a place where the rule of law was also absent, and you are right that violence can often spiral. Could you say where this was? What is was envisioning was a decriminalization of minor violence as long as we can't criminalize general rude behaviour and I just wanted to explore that idea.
- pfisherman 4y ago
  The hood lmao. There was a war in drugs and crimes were prosecuted zealously. Your mistake is thinking that someone will act rationally when hands are laid on them. So leaning into your idea, where would the line be between minor and major violence? Now suppose someone kills another person. They claim the victim attacked them and they were in fear for their life. The victim’s friend claims that the victim was engaging in legal “minor” violence in response to some perceived slight. How do you adjudicate this?
  - mihaic 4y ago
    Right now there is an exception for violence committed in self-defense for instance. You still can't claim self-defense if you murder someone that shoved you. That's why I think things would get worse, you'd still be on the hook for serious escalation. My definition of minor violence is anything that doesn't leave a trace for more than a few days, so I know it's not legally precise. I'm just arguing for a fringe solution right now, but from the outside it seems that long prison sentences for minor offenses have destroy lives and communities in many US inner city areas, and almost anything might be an improvement. How was your experience with rehabilitation of minor offenders?

mihaic 4y ago

It sounds as if you lived in a place where the rule of law was also absent, and you are right that violence can often spiral. Could you say where this was? What is was envisioning was a decriminalization of minor violence as long as we can't criminalize general rude behaviour and I just wanted to explore that idea.

pfisherman 4y ago
The hood lmao. There was a war in drugs and crimes were prosecuted zealously. Your mistake is thinking that someone will act rationally when hands are laid on them. So leaning into your idea, where would the line be between minor and major violence? Now suppose someone kills another person. They claim the victim attacked them and they were in fear for their life. The victim’s friend claims that the victim was engaging in legal “minor” violence in response to some perceived slight. How do you adjudicate this?
- mihaic 4y ago
  Right now there is an exception for violence committed in self-defense for instance. You still can't claim self-defense if you murder someone that shoved you. That's why I think things would get worse, you'd still be on the hook for serious escalation. My definition of minor violence is anything that doesn't leave a trace for more than a few days, so I know it's not legally precise. I'm just arguing for a fringe solution right now, but from the outside it seems that long prison sentences for minor offenses have destroy lives and communities in many US inner city areas, and almost anything might be an improvement. How was your experience with rehabilitation of minor offenders?