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So... bring back the "old school" exams, pens, papers, large classroom, one professor, 2, 3 TAs walking around, no phones or computers, only paper and pen, and
by ajsnigrutin 4y ago
So... bring back the "old school" exams, pens, papers, large classroom, one professor, 2, 3 TAs walking around, no phones or computers, only paper and pen, and since it's university level, memorizing stuff is stupid, so either let them have books/notes or atleast a piece of paper (or more) with formulas or whatever is needed (because let's be fair, "cheat sheets" will always be a posibility, and even the best doctors and engineers google stuff all the time).
Some minimal cheating is still possible, but otherwise, it's a lot better than the current online situation.
- josephcsible 4y agoIt's fine to have exams on computers, as long as they're university-owned computers in a lab and not, say, the students' personal laptops at home.
- 867-5309 4y agowhich member of the covid-stricken workforce is going to provide, administer and police that? and how well? students would just remotely connect to their laptops at home
- josephcsible 4y ago> students would just remotely connect to their laptops at home The point of requiring university-owned lab computers is that it'd be feasible to lock them down to prevent this sort of thing.
- 867-5309 4y agoas above
- Thorentis 4y agoUnfortunately COVID stopped this for a while, but agree this is the only way to stop this kind of behavior.
- geraldwhen 4y agoDoesn’t matter. I saw 12 students submit the same binary for an assignment and 0 failed the class, let alone were expelled as the “academic integrity policy” would imply. International students are cash cows, and college is a joke.
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoSo, it's not the "billion dollar industry"'s fault, but colleges that are becoming more of a joke than ever. There is a way to stop (atleast most of) the cheating, but if colleges are not interested in that, why shame and try to prevent people monetizing the thing colleges themselves allow?
- geraldwhen 4y agoIt’s a billion(s) dollar industry at fault for sure, but perhaps not the one the article mentions. I don’t see college changing any time soon. I work with people that still think certain schools are “great schools” implying they produce knowledgeable graduates. Even seconds after an interview ends in flames because a graduate doesn’t know how to touch a computer.
- czstar 4y agoI teach at a college. I stopped caring about cheating a while back. It’s not worth the hassle of reporting a student who cheats and the college needs students. College is being treated as a business and the client is the student.
- mlindner 4y agoPlease don't contribute to the problem. If you catch them cheating, get them thrown out of the university.
- czstar 4y agoAt my salary? Not worth the trouble. Especially since no one in the chain of command wants to deal with it and nothing of real consequence will happen. The problem is far greater than me and it’s not worth it to try to care.
- charlie0 4y agoYou forget a lot of colleges are businesses. That stuff is just too expensive, they won't do it. Also, failing too many students looks bad as well, so they won't enforce anything too seriously.