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I don't think we can put aside the details of whether it is true or not (it's not), because Putin has full info about the fact that it's nonsense, so it's extre
by bpodgursky 4y ago
I don't think we can put aside the details of whether it is true or not (it's not), because Putin has full info about the fact that it's nonsense, so it's extremely relevant to his mindset (ie, it's a fabrication aimed at a completely unrelated objective).
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoIf ukraine joined nato, do you honestly believe, that americans wouldn't install missles there, that could reach moscow?
- bpodgursky 4y agoThe US has not put any nuclear weapons (or long-range missiles) in Latvia or Estonia, which are already part of NATO and closer to Moscow... so no. There's already a perfectly close place to put them, which the US hasn't bothered doing, because it's unnecessary.
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoSo, for example, if russia became more friendly and cooparetive with eg. Cuba, that wouldn't be problematic to USA, because proximity doesn't matter that much?
- bpodgursky 4y agoYou're shifting goalposts because you don't have any rebuttal to my point. In the many years that Cuba was friendly and cooperative with the USSR, the US never made any more than a joke attempt at a military intervention. The US was obviously not thrilled, but never did anything comparable to the current invasion of Ukraine. Not sure your point.
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- trasz 4y agoExcept destroying Cuban economy with sanctions, which continue to this day. There is a difference though: we can’t punish US, because it’s a superpower. USSR was a superpower too. But Russia isn’t.
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoI mean.. let's be honest.. if it's a cold winter this year, Russia will be punishing all of us. I live in slovenia, we're tiny, we have only a handful of soldiers, and we're still a part of occupying forces in countries like syria... so maybe we deserve it... but i prefer watching "punishments" on tv, and not by being cold and hungry in my own home, because a few politicians are in a dick-size competition, while they're stealing a bunch of our money and helping their pals in the weapons industry.
- trasz 4y agoMost of the gas is used for industry, not heating. And even the industry seems to be able to lower the usage quite drastically. It’ll be tough for economy of course. Also, everyone has just realized Russian army was all bluff. Every single country bordering with them will take advantage of this. Which means there will be multiple parties we can buy the formerly Russian gas from.
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoYeah... https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-gas-crisis-landlords-lowering-the-heating-shortages-russia-ukraine-2022-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-gas-crisis-landlords... > Germany starts rationing hot water and turning down the heating in case Russia cuts off its natural gas supplies https://english.almayadeen.net/news/economics/germans-told-to-wear-a-sweater-to-cope-with-soaring-energy-p https://english.almayadeen.net/news/economics/germans-told-t... > Germans told to wear a sweater to cope with soaring energy prices Yeah...
- bpodgursky 4y agoOk? Russia didn't sanction Ukraine; they invaded and have killed tens of thousands of people (so far). There's no equivalence here.
- wiseowise 4y agoMaybe, how is that relevant to Ukraine?
- josephcsible 4y agoCan't modern ICBMs launched from within the US already reach Moscow?
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoyes, but it's easier to intercept them if they're launched from further away
- ptr 4y agoRussia can’t intercept ICBMs. Distance doesn’t matter.
- wiseowise 4y agoThat’s irrelevant, Ukraine is a sovereign country and can do as it pleases.