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You’re certainly not the only one. It’s a confusing choice of naming.

cflewis 4y ago
I think the statute of limitations on “confusing name” when Mac OS Carbon was removed from OS X 10 years ago has passed.
- morelisp 4y ago
  Carbon was removed two years ago.
  - astrange 4y ago
    Well, the API was. There's still bits of it internally driving the menu and event systems, and a lot of app/icon/Finder behaviors.
- oneplane 4y ago
  Since those old operating systems are now vintage or retro, there have been a few people porting things like Rust, Go and Swift to older Mac OS versions (the ones that use the Toolbox ROM) which was also in the news here. There is of course no 'registry of allowed names that have aged-out' but there are probably other creative names one could come up with.
- olliej 4y ago
  Yeah, I was confused by the name carbon, but am able to recognize that what I think of by default is not relevant anymore.
Someone 4y ago
I hope they picked that name for the same reason Apple picked it: because all life is built on carbon.
- oneplane 4y ago
  Or because Carbon as an element is "C" and "C" is also the language the framework was built for.
  - Maursault 4y ago
    Well, Apple was a little clever with Carbon for this reason, because it was a C based API. I'm not sure how you get Carbon from C++.
    - tambourine_man 4y ago
      Also, the UI was called Aqua. So Aqua + Carbon is an interesting metaphor for an OS ecosystem.
    - schoen 4y ago
      Apparently, although it's not likely to occur under most conditions, you can form a monatomic carbon C²⁺ ion by shooting a laser into very high-temperature carbon: https://sciencetrends.com/the-charge-of-a-carbon-ion/ https://sciencetrends.com/the-charge-of-a-carbon-ion/ https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4966987 https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4966987 "Up to C⁴⁺ ions are observed." And I guess you could also write the C²⁺ ion as "C⁺⁺" if you wanted. :-)
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        That just makes the comparison worse, if it's difficult and unstable and almost immediately sheds the +s.

I think the statute of limitations on “confusing name” when Mac OS Carbon was removed from OS X 10 years ago has passed.

morelisp 4y ago
Carbon was removed two years ago.
- astrange 4y ago
  Well, the API was. There's still bits of it internally driving the menu and event systems, and a lot of app/icon/Finder behaviors.
oneplane 4y ago
Since those old operating systems are now vintage or retro, there have been a few people porting things like Rust, Go and Swift to older Mac OS versions (the ones that use the Toolbox ROM) which was also in the news here. There is of course no 'registry of allowed names that have aged-out' but there are probably other creative names one could come up with.
olliej 4y ago
Yeah, I was confused by the name carbon, but am able to recognize that what I think of by default is not relevant anymore.

Someone 4y ago

I hope they picked that name for the same reason Apple picked it: because all life is built on carbon.

oneplane 4y ago
Or because Carbon as an element is "C" and "C" is also the language the framework was built for.
- Maursault 4y ago
  Well, Apple was a little clever with Carbon for this reason, because it was a C based API. I'm not sure how you get Carbon from C++.
  - tambourine_man 4y ago
    Also, the UI was called Aqua. So Aqua + Carbon is an interesting metaphor for an OS ecosystem.
  - schoen 4y ago
    Apparently, although it's not likely to occur under most conditions, you can form a monatomic carbon C²⁺ ion by shooting a laser into very high-temperature carbon: https://sciencetrends.com/the-charge-of-a-carbon-ion/ https://sciencetrends.com/the-charge-of-a-carbon-ion/ https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4966987 https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4966987 "Up to C⁴⁺ ions are observed." And I guess you could also write the C²⁺ ion as "C⁺⁺" if you wanted. :-)
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      That just makes the comparison worse, if it's difficult and unstable and almost immediately sheds the +s.