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I don't know anybody who pays for adobe products beside some professional photographers/artists. The support is nonexistent and their pricing is consumer unfri

I don't know anybody who pays for adobe products beside some professional photographers/artists. The support is nonexistent and their pricing is consumer unfriendly. You can only make yearly subscriptions and even the student prices are high. Acrobat for 180€ a year and it crashes one in 10 times when I convert some things and takes all the edits with it to the grave. Ridiculous.

njsubedi 4y ago
We’re a small game studio and we pay for all adobe products ($84/mo/user). It’s an underestimation that people don’t pay for Adobe products. No other offerings match their products, and Acrobat is something that we rarely use. Other products work perfectly.
- wink 4y ago
  If you're a small game studio I guess you're very much included in the professional artist category. Hell, back when we were slicing up templates to use in table-based layout I used photoshop every day and even being a 100% web developer I would put myself in that category.. not artist, but professional user ;)
vladvasiliu 4y ago
I do, and I'm not a professional photographer/artist by any measure. I pay for the "photography bundle", which is Lightroom + Photoshop + some cloud storage (which I don't use). Before the subscription-based model, these two would cost some 8-900 euros. At 12 € a month and 800 € for the bundle, that's 66 months to break even, or 5.5 years. Sure, you could use the same version for 20 years if you wanted. It probably works on Windows, but probably not on the mac, what with the CPU architectures changing. And there have been improvements that I, as an amateur photographer, am happy to have. For example the new automatic selection that landed a year or two ago in Photoshop. Could the same be achieved by a skilled professional with the path tool? Probably, and maybe even better. But I'm not that professional, and I don't want to sink hours and hours into this. To me that's actually a pretty good deal. Now, you could argue that the product isn't worth it because X is better. But that's a totally different argument.
bergenty 4y ago
I use illustrator, audition and photoshop a lot. My wife works for a university though and I have a free subscription.

njsubedi 4y ago

We’re a small game studio and we pay for all adobe products ($84/mo/user). It’s an underestimation that people don’t pay for Adobe products. No other offerings match their products, and Acrobat is something that we rarely use. Other products work perfectly.

wink 4y ago
If you're a small game studio I guess you're very much included in the professional artist category. Hell, back when we were slicing up templates to use in table-based layout I used photoshop every day and even being a 100% web developer I would put myself in that category.. not artist, but professional user ;)

vladvasiliu 4y ago

I do, and I'm not a professional photographer/artist by any measure. I pay for the "photography bundle", which is Lightroom + Photoshop + some cloud storage (which I don't use). Before the subscription-based model, these two would cost some 8-900 euros. At 12 € a month and 800 € for the bundle, that's 66 months to break even, or 5.5 years. Sure, you could use the same version for 20 years if you wanted. It probably works on Windows, but probably not on the mac, what with the CPU architectures changing. And there have been improvements that I, as an amateur photographer, am happy to have. For example the new automatic selection that landed a year or two ago in Photoshop. Could the same be achieved by a skilled professional with the path tool? Probably, and maybe even better. But I'm not that professional, and I don't want to sink hours and hours into this. To me that's actually a pretty good deal. Now, you could argue that the product isn't worth it because X is better. But that's a totally different argument.

bergenty 4y ago

I use illustrator, audition and photoshop a lot. My wife works for a university though and I have a free subscription.