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"Getting high" off of a breathing method sounds a bit dangerous.

Quequau 4y ago
I moderate a few hearing health forums. From time to time I see people saying they got into this and damaged their hearing / caused tinnitus.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Yeah, there are several threads about that in the subreddit [0]. I did get the ringing in my ears when I first started. The solutions normally given are a) You are straining yourself. "Listen to your body" when to stop holding your breath (No issues there for me) and b) Breath in through your nose, out through your mouth. Breathing in through my nose completely removed the ringing noise for me. [0]: https://old.reddit.com/r/BecomingTheIceman/ https://old.reddit.com/r/BecomingTheIceman/
  - jtbayly 4y ago
    I got ringing afterwards when I tried it, found the permanent tinnitus warnings and quit immediately. I wasn’t straining. I might try once more, being careful to follow your suggestion.
    - Semaphor 4y ago
      Yeah, I was pretty scared as well and instantly googled, saw the tinnitus warnings and became worried. Luckily, the nose breathing helped, because I quite enjoy the breathing exercises.
- upsidesinclude 4y ago
  Tinnitus is mental
guzik 4y ago
It is. Hyperventilation is the body's response to CO2 levels become too low.
- amelius 4y ago
  Can CO2 be measured in a simple way? (Like an oximeter in a smartwatch measures oxygen)?
  - Enginerrrd 4y ago
    The desire to breathe in a healthy individual is a really good proxy for CO2 levels based on a wonderful design with distributed sensors throughout the body. It is not a good proxy for O2 levels in healthy individuals, but may be in people with COPD or other chronic breathing problems.
  - ta988 4y ago
    Yes there is some equipment to do transcutaneous pCO2 but that's mostly used in sleep studies AFAIK. Most of the time you use a blood test. I heard in some research they use IR on expired air not sure how common that is. If you find a "home made" way to get a (even just relative) pCO2 reading I would be highly interested.
- kuhewa 4y ago
  Hyperventilation removes CO2 from the blood
  - pcrh 4y ago
    ...which causes hypocapnia, which can be dangerous if prolonged.
- jtbayly 4y ago
  Are you sure? I would expect it to be the response to high co2 levels, since it removes co2.
  - 4y ago
yomkippur 4y ago
Getting intoxicated isn't the end goal but to relax the body and mind to boost your immune system. I take you haven't even read the article. edit: so if you think Wim Hof is just getting recreational high then you should continue taking whatever drug you are on such as lead.
- yellow_lead 4y ago
  The article doesnt talk about these benefits, only about how the author was able to re-achieve the high they were seeking. I take it you didn't read the article.
upsidesinclude 4y ago
I want to offer you two responses each of which are absolutely genuine: You must be fun at parties. If you have never experienced your own body responding to your selective input (other than Mt. Dew) you are missing out... Ever hear of a "runner's high"? Dangerous indeed! Why don't you try it out and see what happens, you have to breathe anyway
- yellow_lead 4y ago
  No thanks, I don't have tinnitus and want to keep it that way.
  - upsidesinclude 4y ago
    Uh oh, you have tinnitus https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/psychopathology-tinnitus https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/psychopathology-tinnit...

I moderate a few hearing health forums. From time to time I see people saying they got into this and damaged their hearing / caused tinnitus.

Semaphor 4y ago
Yeah, there are several threads about that in the subreddit [0]. I did get the ringing in my ears when I first started. The solutions normally given are a) You are straining yourself. "Listen to your body" when to stop holding your breath (No issues there for me) and b) Breath in through your nose, out through your mouth. Breathing in through my nose completely removed the ringing noise for me. [0]: https://old.reddit.com/r/BecomingTheIceman/ https://old.reddit.com/r/BecomingTheIceman/
- jtbayly 4y ago
  I got ringing afterwards when I tried it, found the permanent tinnitus warnings and quit immediately. I wasn’t straining. I might try once more, being careful to follow your suggestion.
  - Semaphor 4y ago
    Yeah, I was pretty scared as well and instantly googled, saw the tinnitus warnings and became worried. Luckily, the nose breathing helped, because I quite enjoy the breathing exercises.
upsidesinclude 4y ago
Tinnitus is mental

guzik 4y ago

It is. Hyperventilation is the body's response to CO2 levels become too low.

amelius 4y ago
Can CO2 be measured in a simple way? (Like an oximeter in a smartwatch measures oxygen)?
- Enginerrrd 4y ago
  The desire to breathe in a healthy individual is a really good proxy for CO2 levels based on a wonderful design with distributed sensors throughout the body. It is not a good proxy for O2 levels in healthy individuals, but may be in people with COPD or other chronic breathing problems.
- ta988 4y ago
  Yes there is some equipment to do transcutaneous pCO2 but that's mostly used in sleep studies AFAIK. Most of the time you use a blood test. I heard in some research they use IR on expired air not sure how common that is. If you find a "home made" way to get a (even just relative) pCO2 reading I would be highly interested.
kuhewa 4y ago
Hyperventilation removes CO2 from the blood
- pcrh 4y ago
  ...which causes hypocapnia, which can be dangerous if prolonged.
jtbayly 4y ago
Are you sure? I would expect it to be the response to high co2 levels, since it removes co2.
- 4y ago

yomkippur 4y ago

Getting intoxicated isn't the end goal but to relax the body and mind to boost your immune system. I take you haven't even read the article. edit: so if you think Wim Hof is just getting recreational high then you should continue taking whatever drug you are on such as lead.

yellow_lead 4y ago
The article doesnt talk about these benefits, only about how the author was able to re-achieve the high they were seeking. I take it you didn't read the article.

upsidesinclude 4y ago

I want to offer you two responses each of which are absolutely genuine: You must be fun at parties. If you have never experienced your own body responding to your selective input (other than Mt. Dew) you are missing out... Ever hear of a "runner's high"? Dangerous indeed! Why don't you try it out and see what happens, you have to breathe anyway

yellow_lead 4y ago
No thanks, I don't have tinnitus and want to keep it that way.
- upsidesinclude 4y ago
  Uh oh, you have tinnitus https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/psychopathology-tinnitus https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/psychopathology-tinnit...