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Feel free to use a VPN or Tor. This information already exists. We are providing it at our own cost at the moment.

by jimhi 4y ago

batch12 4y ago
You don't currently have my data unless you have all data. Once I use your service, you'll have it. If you want to build goodwill, supply the methodology to enable the people who want to do this themselves.
- jimhi 4y ago
  I understand your concern but we are limited by current privacy laws (for good reason in my opinion). I doubt we will build goodwill by showing everyone how to view unredacted information. Feel free to check out https://haveibeenpwned.com/ https://haveibeenpwned.com/, I think you would like that more
  - kadoban 4y ago
    What privacy laws, in which country would prevent you from sharing the source of info? Especially info that you're already sharing? Is this just the ToS of whatever data brokers you're using?
    - ahaseeb 4y ago
      Our license. We're not a data broker and we want to be cautious so the information isn't abused. Like taking some one phone and then using it for few min to acquire the info
      - kadoban 4y ago
        Your license with who? That seems like a very different issue than "privacy laws".
- asadlionpk 4y ago
  They already have the data indexed by phone numbers. Your ip/hn-referrer is pretty useless in comparison imo...
- haswell 4y ago
  > You don't currently have my data unless you have all data. What are you trying to say here? They have the data they have regardless of whether you choose to try the service. > If you want to build goodwill, supply the methodology to enable the people who want to do this themselves. This sets up a false dilemma, i.e. there are other ways to build goodwill. With that said, I suspect the data behind this is not data that the average individual would have much success in acquiring. The subtle hostility seems unnecessary.
  - kadoban 4y ago
    They're likely requesting the data from some broker when you type in your number. The alternative is that they've grabbed a full set of all data for all numbers, in advance, right?
    - ahaseeb 4y ago
      No we pay per query ( It's expensive )
  - ilikehurdles 4y ago
    By providing a phone number, I don’t know if I’m helping build out their dataset, and I don’t know how that data will be used, secured, or sold in the future. Even if they have the data, simply asking for it can give a signal that this data isn’t stale - the number is likely live and owned by an individual.
    - ahaseeb 4y ago
      Data brokerage isn't our business and frankly there are much easier way to buy it on dark web. We're just making it simple for people to learn. Only data set that'll be of help if we give a bad score and it actually get hacked ( which we really don't want )
  - ahaseeb 4y ago
    Frankly goal was to educate people on how our numbers are tied to our identity and then SIM Swapping issue. This is the best we could think of, but please let us know what would be a better approach
- pininja 4y ago
  Having given them my number, I’m unsure if they have a lot of raw data. The results come back like “JXXX SXXXX” instead of “JOHN SMITH”. Maybe they have all the data and are obfuscating to prevent misuse, or maybe thats all the data they get back from the broker since this is a free search. Having Googled my phone number many times, Doxx Me is returning similar results that a bunch of paywalled “people search” websites show as a free preview. I don’t personally think it matters what Doxx Me does since this data is out there being used without my permission all of the time, and they certainly didn’t collect it.
  - ahaseeb 4y ago
    We are not a data broker company. We simply pay data brokers per click. It's a loss leader for us and goal is to improve our number scoring criteria and create awareness on how numbers are linked to our identity & how vulnerable they're
- ahaseeb 4y ago
  It's purely going to multiple data brokers and paying them to give you the info that they've on you. You can search for data brokers and hundreds of them will appear. Our goal is to create awareness around number security and it's linked to our identity

Feel free to use a VPN or Tor. This information already exists. We are providing it at our own cost at the moment.

by jimhi 4y ago

Feel free to use a VPN or Tor. This information already exists. We are providing it at our own cost at the moment.

You don't currently have my data unless you have all data. Once I use your service, you'll have it. If you want to build goodwill, supply the methodology to enable the people who want to do this themselves.

jimhi 4y ago
I understand your concern but we are limited by current privacy laws (for good reason in my opinion). I doubt we will build goodwill by showing everyone how to view unredacted information. Feel free to check out https://haveibeenpwned.com/ https://haveibeenpwned.com/, I think you would like that more
- kadoban 4y ago
  What privacy laws, in which country would prevent you from sharing the source of info? Especially info that you're already sharing? Is this just the ToS of whatever data brokers you're using?
  - ahaseeb 4y ago
    Our license. We're not a data broker and we want to be cautious so the information isn't abused. Like taking some one phone and then using it for few min to acquire the info
    - kadoban 4y ago
      Your license with who? That seems like a very different issue than "privacy laws".
asadlionpk 4y ago
They already have the data indexed by phone numbers. Your ip/hn-referrer is pretty useless in comparison imo...
haswell 4y ago
> You don't currently have my data unless you have all data. What are you trying to say here? They have the data they have regardless of whether you choose to try the service. > If you want to build goodwill, supply the methodology to enable the people who want to do this themselves. This sets up a false dilemma, i.e. there are other ways to build goodwill. With that said, I suspect the data behind this is not data that the average individual would have much success in acquiring. The subtle hostility seems unnecessary.
- kadoban 4y ago
  They're likely requesting the data from some broker when you type in your number. The alternative is that they've grabbed a full set of all data for all numbers, in advance, right?
  - ahaseeb 4y ago
    No we pay per query ( It's expensive )
- ilikehurdles 4y ago
  By providing a phone number, I don’t know if I’m helping build out their dataset, and I don’t know how that data will be used, secured, or sold in the future. Even if they have the data, simply asking for it can give a signal that this data isn’t stale - the number is likely live and owned by an individual.
  - ahaseeb 4y ago
    Data brokerage isn't our business and frankly there are much easier way to buy it on dark web. We're just making it simple for people to learn. Only data set that'll be of help if we give a bad score and it actually get hacked ( which we really don't want )
- ahaseeb 4y ago
  Frankly goal was to educate people on how our numbers are tied to our identity and then SIM Swapping issue. This is the best we could think of, but please let us know what would be a better approach
pininja 4y ago
Having given them my number, I’m unsure if they have a lot of raw data. The results come back like “JXXX SXXXX” instead of “JOHN SMITH”. Maybe they have all the data and are obfuscating to prevent misuse, or maybe thats all the data they get back from the broker since this is a free search. Having Googled my phone number many times, Doxx Me is returning similar results that a bunch of paywalled “people search” websites show as a free preview. I don’t personally think it matters what Doxx Me does since this data is out there being used without my permission all of the time, and they certainly didn’t collect it.
- ahaseeb 4y ago
  We are not a data broker company. We simply pay data brokers per click. It's a loss leader for us and goal is to improve our number scoring criteria and create awareness on how numbers are linked to our identity & how vulnerable they're
ahaseeb 4y ago
It's purely going to multiple data brokers and paying them to give you the info that they've on you. You can search for data brokers and hundreds of them will appear. Our goal is to create awareness around number security and it's linked to our identity