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Jeff previously reviewed our all-SSD NAS, which is far more budget, if anyone is interested: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/kubesails-pibox-mini-2-16-tb

Jeff previously reviewed our all-SSD NAS, which is far more budget, if anyone is interested: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/kubesails-pibox-mini-2-16-tb-ssd-storage-on-pi https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/kubesails-pibox-mini-... Love seeing these projects from him, but this is a rare miss in my opinion. This is the strange middle ground where it's closer to professional than "budget", by quite a bit. At some point, only a tiny tiny fraction of users need 40TB of space. I guess what I'm saying is, this isn't so much a NAS as a specialized youtuber video recording appliance. We have a number of home-hosting users on our platform that run entire racks filled to the brim - and while that's awesome - it's just not what "budget" or "NAS" implies, and it's an extremely limited audience.

jmole 4y ago
Ehhhh, he said "All-SSD NAS on a budget", not a "Budget SSD NAS". Agree though that this was a bit of a miss; the cost of drives here dwarfs everything else, and it makes the choice of case, MB, etc. nearly irrelevant and needlessly cost optimized. Why not spend an extra $60 and get a 5.25->6x 2.5 hot swap cage, for example?
dylan604 4y ago
At the end of the video, the config he settled on doesn't have 40TB of useable space. He only has 16TB of useable. Essentially, a RAID-10 with a hot swap. He's only getting the speed of striping 2 drives together. Sounds like he's playing it safe choosing a bit of redundancy rather than just straight speed.
- geerlingguy 4y ago
  In this case, the majority of my income depends on the edit server being online (thus the decision to go basically RAID10 + hot spare). I have a full backup plus an offsite copy, but they are over 2.5 Gbps on spinning disk, or take 6+ hours to restore from offsite, so they're emergency use only. I'm also trying to get my homelab set up to be a bit more robust / automated / reproducible, and trying out a bunch of different ideas. I'll likely settle on something else in a year's time, but the main motivation for now was to get all the storage into my rack on my 10 Gbps network.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    I've felt the pain of everything you're experiencing. I've managed storage pools with 48 individual drives of spinning rust. Originally, for the lulz, we striped all 48 as RAID0 just to see the speeds essentially saturating the bus. We then reconfigured to 4 arrays with 16 drives each into RAID6, then striped those into RAID60. We started playing with removing a few drives from each array as hot spares. At one point when I was younger, that was all fun. Now, I just want it to work so I can go back to having a life and let others do all the experimental stuff. But now I get to live vicariously through people like you posting their results. Good stuff!
woleium 4y ago
I suspect he just wanted a sponsor for the kit he didn't already have :)
intothemild 4y ago
Yeah this was the big criticism on r/homelab, that it's not a budget build at all, it's very misleading. Most of that build was free because he is who he is. The only other thing that annoyed me is calling TrueNAS Core (FreeBSD) a "Distro" in the same sentence as a Linux distro.
ahepp 4y ago
If you're going to make an all SSD NAS, wouldn't it at least make sense to have a 10gbps network link and more than 3gbps PCI bandwidth?

jmole 4y ago

Ehhhh, he said "All-SSD NAS on a budget", not a "Budget SSD NAS". Agree though that this was a bit of a miss; the cost of drives here dwarfs everything else, and it makes the choice of case, MB, etc. nearly irrelevant and needlessly cost optimized. Why not spend an extra $60 and get a 5.25->6x 2.5 hot swap cage, for example?

dylan604 4y ago

At the end of the video, the config he settled on doesn't have 40TB of useable space. He only has 16TB of useable. Essentially, a RAID-10 with a hot swap. He's only getting the speed of striping 2 drives together. Sounds like he's playing it safe choosing a bit of redundancy rather than just straight speed.

geerlingguy 4y ago
In this case, the majority of my income depends on the edit server being online (thus the decision to go basically RAID10 + hot spare). I have a full backup plus an offsite copy, but they are over 2.5 Gbps on spinning disk, or take 6+ hours to restore from offsite, so they're emergency use only. I'm also trying to get my homelab set up to be a bit more robust / automated / reproducible, and trying out a bunch of different ideas. I'll likely settle on something else in a year's time, but the main motivation for now was to get all the storage into my rack on my 10 Gbps network.
- dylan604 4y ago
  I've felt the pain of everything you're experiencing. I've managed storage pools with 48 individual drives of spinning rust. Originally, for the lulz, we striped all 48 as RAID0 just to see the speeds essentially saturating the bus. We then reconfigured to 4 arrays with 16 drives each into RAID6, then striped those into RAID60. We started playing with removing a few drives from each array as hot spares. At one point when I was younger, that was all fun. Now, I just want it to work so I can go back to having a life and let others do all the experimental stuff. But now I get to live vicariously through people like you posting their results. Good stuff!

woleium 4y ago

I suspect he just wanted a sponsor for the kit he didn't already have :)

intothemild 4y ago

Yeah this was the big criticism on r/homelab, that it's not a budget build at all, it's very misleading. Most of that build was free because he is who he is. The only other thing that annoyed me is calling TrueNAS Core (FreeBSD) a "Distro" in the same sentence as a Linux distro.

ahepp 4y ago

If you're going to make an all SSD NAS, wouldn't it at least make sense to have a 10gbps network link and more than 3gbps PCI bandwidth?