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Doesn't this allow Amazon to know who is paying for Mullvad? Obviously correlating a purchase to a specific account is much harder, but it still seems like a c

Doesn't this allow Amazon to know who is paying for Mullvad? Obviously correlating a purchase to a specific account is much harder, but it still seems like a compromise on privacy.

Cthulhu_ 4y ago
Well yeah, but if it comes to a court case, someone will have to prove that the person that bought the card was also the one that used it. On top of evidence of actual crime, of course.
ezfe 4y ago
Well yeah, but if you do it directly then your CC company knows. Someone will know, it's just a matter of who. You get to pick that.
- 0______0 4y ago
  You can send Mullvad an envelope of cash (not kidding) and then no one will know (hopefully)!
makerofspoons 4y ago
Couldn't you cash-buy an Amazon gift card and then have it shipped to a locker?
- caeril 4y ago
  Yes, buy the Amazon gift card from a store with cameras, with an account set up with your burner SIM purchased from a place with cameras, and pick it up from an Amazon Locker blanketed with cameras. Use cash with fully-tracked serial numbers for all these purchases. Sounds like a solid plan. You guys don't seem to realize that tyranny won decades ago, and you're fighting a war that has long been lost. We are all serfs and slaves.
  - j-bos 4y ago
    Deep breath, no need to rain. As for your point, in any challenge loss is assured by despairing and giving up. So no, winners haven't been declared yet.
  - vineyardmike 4y ago
    Half the stories on HN about major cities involve their inability to prosecute crimes despite being provided evidence but now police are combing through grocery store CCTV feeds looking for people buying Amazon gift cards and Mullvad VPN vouchers? What kind of crime are they prosecuting that isn’t better investigated with a crowbar. https://xkcd.com/538/ https://xkcd.com/538/
vorpalhex 4y ago
Knowing who is paying for Mullvad is about as useful as knowing what sites use TLS.

Doesn't this allow Amazon to know who is paying for Mullvad? Obviously correlating a purchase to a specific account is much harder, but it still seems like a compromise on privacy.

Cthulhu_ 4y ago

Well yeah, but if it comes to a court case, someone will have to prove that the person that bought the card was also the one that used it. On top of evidence of actual crime, of course.

ezfe 4y ago

Well yeah, but if you do it directly then your CC company knows. Someone will know, it's just a matter of who. You get to pick that.

0______0 4y ago
You can send Mullvad an envelope of cash (not kidding) and then no one will know (hopefully)!

makerofspoons 4y ago

Couldn't you cash-buy an Amazon gift card and then have it shipped to a locker?

caeril 4y ago
Yes, buy the Amazon gift card from a store with cameras, with an account set up with your burner SIM purchased from a place with cameras, and pick it up from an Amazon Locker blanketed with cameras. Use cash with fully-tracked serial numbers for all these purchases. Sounds like a solid plan. You guys don't seem to realize that tyranny won decades ago, and you're fighting a war that has long been lost. We are all serfs and slaves.
- j-bos 4y ago
  Deep breath, no need to rain. As for your point, in any challenge loss is assured by despairing and giving up. So no, winners haven't been declared yet.
- vineyardmike 4y ago
  Half the stories on HN about major cities involve their inability to prosecute crimes despite being provided evidence but now police are combing through grocery store CCTV feeds looking for people buying Amazon gift cards and Mullvad VPN vouchers? What kind of crime are they prosecuting that isn’t better investigated with a crowbar. https://xkcd.com/538/ https://xkcd.com/538/

vorpalhex 4y ago

Knowing who is paying for Mullvad is about as useful as knowing what sites use TLS.