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I’m wondering what sorts of use-cases people would use a personal key-value store for. Maybe it’s just a useful foundation for building other tools on top of, l

by tkindy 4y ago

I’m wondering what sorts of use-cases people would use a personal key-value store for. Maybe it’s just a useful foundation for building other tools on top of, like a password manager.

apavlo 4y ago
But it's just a wrapper around SQLite. Skip the middleman and just use SQLite.
- mosselman 4y ago
  But you can’t access Sqlite over the web.
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    ...and you shouldn't.
    - jonnycomputer 4y ago
      Seems to me that for a personal tool like this, sqlite3 is non-problematic. https://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html https://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html "Generally speaking, any site that gets fewer than 100K hits/day should work fine with SQLite. The 100K hits/day figure is a conservative estimate, not a hard upper bound. SQLite has been demonstrated to work with 10 times that amount of traffic."
    - gkbrk 4y ago
      Any concrete reasons? SQLite is probably good enough for 99% of websites / apps.
      - goodpoint 4y ago
        It's not designed to be straight exposed as a web service. It's not hardened to handled malicious traffic.
- pdpi 4y ago
  Or don't skip the middleman and get a simple k/v interface instead of having to deal with a whole sqlite database.
- capableweb 4y ago
  It's clearly not "just a wrapper around SQLite", read through the README and it'll be evident why.
tjpnz 4y ago
I already use my password manager for the problem this tool is trying to solve.
maxmunzel 4y ago
The primary use case is for shuffling around files or clipboards between different computers. I also regularly use the url-sharing capability. Prior, I had to deal with ephemeral http servers, which I didn't like from an ergonomic perspective. Ergonomically, I find redis nice. The problem is, that it is in-memory and that encryption is cumbersome. Also, kvass is able to be used offline, as the kv-store is implemented as a CRDT.
cyberge99 4y ago
I use a KV, Hashi vault, so my shell scripts get api keys, secrets, etc and they’re not stored plaintext or in SCM.
resoluteteeth 4y ago
I use skate to store secrets used by some personal programs. I have scripts that pull out the secrets and set them as environment variables that are used by the programs. This way I don't have them sitting around in a configuration file in the source directory and can't accidentally commit them to git but they're easy to sync between computers.
nextaccountic 4y ago
For passwords specifically there's a similar tool, https://www.passwordstore.org/ https://www.passwordstore.org/ - but it stores GPG-encrypted plain text files versioned with git, instead of managing a sqlite db More importantly, it has Firefox and Chrome extensions for auto-filling passwords on the web https://github.com/passff/passff https://github.com/passff/passff https://github.com/browserpass/browserpass-extension https://github.com/browserpass/browserpass-extension
traviscj 4y ago
I use a similar setup to store code snippets (certain Java annotations for integration/unit tests, various things like that), vehicle license plate/vins, internal (but nonsensitive) ids for test accounts, tons of things like that. Honestly a password manager would probably be technically better—or a bunch of flat files lol—but there was a certain charm to having it displayed / function exactly as I like it, and lightning quick with nothing I didn’t need. IDE would be another natural place for a lot of my usages, but I kept finding I needed to leave it in a pull request review or slack conversation or similar, not necessarily programming myself.

by tkindy 4y ago

I’m wondering what sorts of use-cases people would use a personal key-value store for. Maybe it’s just a useful foundation for building other tools on top of, like a password manager.

apavlo 4y ago

But it's just a wrapper around SQLite. Skip the middleman and just use SQLite.

mosselman 4y ago
But you can’t access Sqlite over the web.
- goodpoint 4y ago
  ...and you shouldn't.
  - jonnycomputer 4y ago
    Seems to me that for a personal tool like this, sqlite3 is non-problematic. https://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html https://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html "Generally speaking, any site that gets fewer than 100K hits/day should work fine with SQLite. The 100K hits/day figure is a conservative estimate, not a hard upper bound. SQLite has been demonstrated to work with 10 times that amount of traffic."
  - gkbrk 4y ago
    Any concrete reasons? SQLite is probably good enough for 99% of websites / apps.
    - goodpoint 4y ago
      It's not designed to be straight exposed as a web service. It's not hardened to handled malicious traffic.
pdpi 4y ago
Or don't skip the middleman and get a simple k/v interface instead of having to deal with a whole sqlite database.
capableweb 4y ago
It's clearly not "just a wrapper around SQLite", read through the README and it'll be evident why.

tjpnz 4y ago

I already use my password manager for the problem this tool is trying to solve.

maxmunzel 4y ago

The primary use case is for shuffling around files or clipboards between different computers. I also regularly use the url-sharing capability. Prior, I had to deal with ephemeral http servers, which I didn't like from an ergonomic perspective. Ergonomically, I find redis nice. The problem is, that it is in-memory and that encryption is cumbersome. Also, kvass is able to be used offline, as the kv-store is implemented as a CRDT.

cyberge99 4y ago

I use a KV, Hashi vault, so my shell scripts get api keys, secrets, etc and they’re not stored plaintext or in SCM.

resoluteteeth 4y ago

I use skate to store secrets used by some personal programs. I have scripts that pull out the secrets and set them as environment variables that are used by the programs. This way I don't have them sitting around in a configuration file in the source directory and can't accidentally commit them to git but they're easy to sync between computers.

nextaccountic 4y ago

For passwords specifically there's a similar tool, https://www.passwordstore.org/ https://www.passwordstore.org/ - but it stores GPG-encrypted plain text files versioned with git, instead of managing a sqlite db More importantly, it has Firefox and Chrome extensions for auto-filling passwords on the web https://github.com/passff/passff https://github.com/passff/passff https://github.com/browserpass/browserpass-extension https://github.com/browserpass/browserpass-extension

traviscj 4y ago

I use a similar setup to store code snippets (certain Java annotations for integration/unit tests, various things like that), vehicle license plate/vins, internal (but nonsensitive) ids for test accounts, tons of things like that. Honestly a password manager would probably be technically better—or a bunch of flat files lol—but there was a certain charm to having it displayed / function exactly as I like it, and lightning quick with nothing I didn’t need. IDE would be another natural place for a lot of my usages, but I kept finding I needed to leave it in a pull request review or slack conversation or similar, not necessarily programming myself.