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According to the CDC: > Infections with the type of monkeypox virus identified in this outbreak ... are rarely fatal. Over 99% of people who get this form of t
by yosito 4y ago
According to the CDC:
> Infections with the type of monkeypox virus identified in this outbreak ... are rarely fatal. Over 99% of people who get this form of the disease are likely to survive. However, people with ... a history of eczema ... may be more likely to ... die.
https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/faq.html https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/faq.html
I feel simultaneous relief and terror. While I do feel that the eczema part I've highlighted is probably some standard language around risk to people with immune conditions, I do wonder how much of a higher risk eczema poses in cases like this.
- amluto 4y agoEczema appears to be a major risk factor for serious complications from the standard smallpox vaccines. Presumably this is related.
- ZoomerCretin 4y agoMonkeypox is a disease that is deadlier for children than adults. It's estimated to kill 15% of children. Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6478203/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6478203/
- HL33tibCe7 4y agoDepends on which strain. The strain in this outbreak appears mild.
- truemotive 4y ago“Appears mild” when we don’t know a damn thing about Long COVID yet is quite the stretch.
- Hellion 4y agoUnlike Covid, which is a relatively new family of virus to us, humans have hundreds of years with this family of disease We have a much firmer foundation of understanding monkeypox and it’s long term effects
- mionhe 4y agoErm, we've been dealing with coronovirus since the Spanish Flu at least. It seems that any new strain can contain surprises.
- taktoa 4y agoSpanish flu is an orthomyxovirus, not a coronavirus. There are some cold-causing coronaviruses though.
- nicoburns 4y agoMy understanding is that we don’t know for sure wha kind of virus caused Spanish flu (it occurring before our ability to analyse this kind of thing). What are you badi by your assertion that it was an orthomyxovirus on?
- doktorhladnjak 4y agoScientists have been able to retrieve genetic material from the remains of those who are confirmed to have died during that pandemic. They've effectively sequenced the genome even to know how it relates to other flu viruses https://www.news.vcu.edu/article/Genetic_sequencing_of_deadly_1918_influenza_virus_shows_link https://www.news.vcu.edu/article/Genetic_sequencing_of_deadl... You might be thinking of the 1889-90 "flu" pandemic which has been theorized to be from a coronavirus known now as OC43, but it's not certain.
- fjfaase 4y agoCould explain a little more what you mean. I have come to understand that covid belongs to the family of corona viruses that are responsible for about 15% of all colds. This monkeypox virus also belongs to a family of viruses that most of us got infected with as a child and that also has some long term effects as it can cause shingles. This monkeypox virus could also have unexpected long term effects with, for example, very severe forms of shingles.
- sieabahlpark 4y ago
- ren_engineer 4y agothe strongest predictor for long Covid is having a previously diagonosed anxiety disorder, hinting that long covid is mostly placebo effect https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M21-4905 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M21-4905
- NickM 4y agoAnxiety is generally correlated with systemic markers of inflammation though, so there could be some hidden variables there. Perhaps having an overly sensitive immune system predisposes one to both anxiety and long Covid, or perhaps the physical effects of anxiety on the body predispose people to maladaptive immune responses to Covid, or etc. etc.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y agoPhysical (as in, clinical?!) anxiety can be the cause of what you know as anxiety. Having had a doctor write me off as a hypochondriac because of physical anxiety I was experiencing due to a toxicity issue...I can safely say your medical beliefs are potentially dangerous to others.
- ZoomerCretin 4y ago...because mostly adults have been infected so far, in whom the virus is not very deadly.
- epistasis 4y agoNo, because there are two distinct lineages, and the lineage that's is spreading right now is the less deadly lineage. That said, there have been additional mutations, that may be responsible for it spreading so much, or not, or may have other effects. Monkeypox mutates much more slowly than, say, flu or SARS-CoV-2, so it seems unlikely to have a quick change in its effects, but (nearly) everything is possible in biology.
- valbaca 4y agoWow, thank you for pointing this out. I have eczema and would've never though it would increase my risk against *Monkeypox*. Wild, but glad I'm better informed.
- katkatkatkatket 4y ago
- thedrbrian 4y agoNah. Rona was like 99.8% non death rate.
- epistasis 4y agoUS population is 335M, 1.02M people have died from COVID. Even if 100% of people got COVID, that would be 99.7% survival rate. But we have lots of vaccination, which huuuuugely reduced the death rate, so a far more realistic death rate would be 0.6%-1%. And of course any of the early estimates were exactly in that range. Anybody who has been advocating lower rates are all charlatans. At least every claim I have traced.
- spookthesunset 4y agoNow break that down by age. And for bonus points tell me which people died “from” Covid and “with” Covid. All the data surrounding Covid is trash. Garbage in, garbage out. It’s gonna take a while before cooler, non politically motivated people can get an accurate figure.
- acgourley 4y agoThis analysis has been done several times. To the best of my knowledge, even the covid policy contrarians don't see a a problem with its obvious conclusions. Here, let me google that for you: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
- katkatkatkatket 4y agoThe results on the "Weekly Number of Deaths by Age" dashboard are pretty clear - Covid had little impact on the death rates in the under-44 group. This is not surprising, as every country that records this data shows the same result. I'm not sure of the situation in the US, but here in the UK all of the data dashboards and death stats indicate "deaths with Covid". This is simply how they were recorded, nothing more nothing less - if you tested positive for Covid within 30 days of dying, you were a "death with Covid".
- Bjorkbat 4y agoI'm less worried about fatality and more worried about long-term health consequences. COVID worries me, but not because it might kill me. I'm more worried about long-term brain fog and respiratory problems. I'm more worried about being permanently disabled. I'm worried about having to life a kind of life where I feel like I'm substantially less than I once was. But back to the point, I'm curious what the odds are of getting monkeypox and never quite fully recovering from it.
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- nikolay 4y agoThe thing that worries me about COVID-19 is the accumulative effect, too. It's a highly-contagious diseases, i.e. without measures you're gonna have it repeatedly, i.e. several times per year, it spreads so fast, it mutates so fast, and each time you go thru it results into a lasting damage, which over several infections, could turn debilitating or fatal. I puzzle how much people misunderstand it and still compare it to the flu! The same could be with monkeypox, which I think would scare people more due to the possible scarring - people only care about things they can see! They can't see the brain/kidney/heart damage, so, they totally ignore it! But, man, these boils are terrifying and the scars would be terrifying, too, so, I expect people to take it way more seriously than COVID-9!
- anjel 4y agoSee also subsequent reemergence, similar to Shingles. Herpes infections are forever hiding from your immune system among the neurons.