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Child vaping epidemic risks becoming ‘public health catastrophe’ in UK

20 points by nigerian1981 4y ago

h2odragon 4y ago
- maguirre 4y ago
  I feel like you went straight for the controversial take. Regardless, how are puberty blockers and nicotine in the same category?
  - deleted 4y ago
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- justusw 4y ago
  Are those two things in the same field?
  - djohnston 4y ago
    Puberty blockers are probably far worse in the long run. Since we're now running both experiments in parallel let's circle back in 10 years and see how it panned out
Proven 4y ago
LinuxBender 4y ago
Someone off topic, are there any trust-worthy sites that describe step by step how to make vape juice and where to source the materials in the same manor that the legit producers today use? As a prepper I like to stock up on things that can be traded for food.
- eurasiantiger 4y ago
  All you need is: - monopropylene glycol (food grade) - vegetable glycerin (food grade) - nicotine base liquid The last one is difficult, but it is possible to grow your own tobacco and extract the alkaloids. That, however, will result in an impure mixture of various nicotine salts, other alkaloids, plant oils and whatnot, so you will probably want to stock up on unflavored nicotine liquid while you can. As for flavorings, avoid them as a principle.
  - LinuxBender 4y ago
    I might just stock up on the Nicotine if it is stable. Processing the plants sounds tricky. I will read up on it though just in case it has other uses.
- maxhille 4y ago
  I am mixing my vape juice at home. The ingredients are always the same and chemically quite straight forward: Vegetable Glycerine (VG) Propylene Glycol (PG) These are usually mixed 50-50 and give you the juice / liquid base. You can buy those pre-mixed but AFAIK that is not good for long term storage. You then add Nicotine (optional) and for flavor any regular food aromas. Vape shops should be able to supply you with these things in bulk sizes. Make sure they are in proper containers for long term storage. I think I heard that Nicotine is not chemically stable but I might be wrong.
  - LinuxBender 4y ago
    Is the Nicotine diluted? I believe 1 drop would be about 50mg if it were pure Nicotine?
  - feet 4y ago
    Flavoring should not be used in vape juice. There is none approved for inhalation and it is what causes most issues. If you want to make your own, just use VG/PG and nicotine. Gotta ask, is this really for harm reduction moving from cigarettes? Those were not flavored and we use them for the nicotine. So why should people add flavor to vape juice if it doesn't do anything besides increase risk of harm?

20 points by nigerian1981 4y ago

h2odragon 4y ago

maguirre 4y ago
I feel like you went straight for the controversial take. Regardless, how are puberty blockers and nicotine in the same category?
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
justusw 4y ago
Are those two things in the same field?
- djohnston 4y ago
  Puberty blockers are probably far worse in the long run. Since we're now running both experiments in parallel let's circle back in 10 years and see how it panned out

Proven 4y ago

LinuxBender 4y ago

Someone off topic, are there any trust-worthy sites that describe step by step how to make vape juice and where to source the materials in the same manor that the legit producers today use? As a prepper I like to stock up on things that can be traded for food.

eurasiantiger 4y ago
All you need is: - monopropylene glycol (food grade) - vegetable glycerin (food grade) - nicotine base liquid The last one is difficult, but it is possible to grow your own tobacco and extract the alkaloids. That, however, will result in an impure mixture of various nicotine salts, other alkaloids, plant oils and whatnot, so you will probably want to stock up on unflavored nicotine liquid while you can. As for flavorings, avoid them as a principle.
- LinuxBender 4y ago
  I might just stock up on the Nicotine if it is stable. Processing the plants sounds tricky. I will read up on it though just in case it has other uses.
maxhille 4y ago
I am mixing my vape juice at home. The ingredients are always the same and chemically quite straight forward: Vegetable Glycerine (VG) Propylene Glycol (PG) These are usually mixed 50-50 and give you the juice / liquid base. You can buy those pre-mixed but AFAIK that is not good for long term storage. You then add Nicotine (optional) and for flavor any regular food aromas. Vape shops should be able to supply you with these things in bulk sizes. Make sure they are in proper containers for long term storage. I think I heard that Nicotine is not chemically stable but I might be wrong.
- LinuxBender 4y ago
  Is the Nicotine diluted? I believe 1 drop would be about 50mg if it were pure Nicotine?
- feet 4y ago
  Flavoring should not be used in vape juice. There is none approved for inhalation and it is what causes most issues. If you want to make your own, just use VG/PG and nicotine. Gotta ask, is this really for harm reduction moving from cigarettes? Those were not flavored and we use them for the nicotine. So why should people add flavor to vape juice if it doesn't do anything besides increase risk of harm?