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>They won't stop until every room in every home has mandatory cameras installed. And we will happily implement the APIs and integrate the databases they need t

>They won't stop until every room in every home has mandatory cameras installed. And we will happily implement the APIs and integrate the databases they need to do it so long as they tell us they're gonna use it to prosecute our neighbor's cash landscaper for tax evasion, fine the teenager with a loud exhaust on his car and find our stolen packages (as if that ever happens when the less equal animals are victim). People have such short sighted and infantile attraction toward seeing the surveillance state as being used "optimize society" by enforcing whatever their pet issue is that they fail to see the average or median case it will be used to enforce something they don't care about at all and will frequently be used to enforce things they don't really want enforced that hard.

BitwiseFool 4y ago
Gotta make sure no one is watching the beeb without a tv license.
- hammyhavoc 4y ago
  Not that there's anything worth watching on it anyway. I've not seen broadcast TV since 2010. I don't miss it.
- BobbyJo 4y ago
  Your TV is already tracking everything you watch, and selling the data to 3rd parties.
LordDragonfang 4y ago
>find our stolen packages (as if that ever happens when the less equal animals are victim). I've read so many accounts of people with Ring footage of a theft who tried to give it to the police and they refused to even look at it. I don't think I've ever heard of someone actually getting stolen property back outside of a Mark Rober video. The police surveillance state isn't there for you, and people need to realize that. <stage whisper>It's there to serve the interests of Capital</stage whisper>
- fearoffish 4y ago
  > I've read so many accounts of people with Ring footage of a theft who tried to give it to the police and they refused to even look at it. It’s even worse than that. I showed them two sets of camera footage of staff in my retail shop stealing from the cash register, and tallied it up my accounts to prove the amount…and CPS said “not enough evidence”. The camera footage was so clear you could see the 20 on the notes.
  - boomchinolo78 4y ago
    Wow, what country is this? Just to make sure I never live on it, even in rural LATAM you could persuade them to look into it. The lack of options in the first world is disgusting
    - lol768 4y ago
      Given the mention of the Crown Prosecution Service and the context of the article, I'm going to assume England (could possibly also be Wales).
function_seven 4y ago
> ...fine the teenager with a loud exhaust on his car ... I couldn't believe how mostly-positive the comments on this story[1] were! I get that loud cars at night suck ass. I've been there. I currently have a related problem of neighbors randomly lighting of fireworks at night, so I'm not unsympathetic to these quality-of-life issues. But there's something heartbreaking to see the hacker community—which was once overwhelmingly opposed to mass surveillance—starting to beg for it instead. Yeah, yeah, I know that HN is not a monolithic group; viewpoints do vary. But I can't shake the feeling that if the story below was posted to HN 10 years ago (or Slashdot 20 years ago), the comments would not have been so fawning. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31299641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31299641

BitwiseFool 4y ago

Gotta make sure no one is watching the beeb without a tv license.

hammyhavoc 4y ago
Not that there's anything worth watching on it anyway. I've not seen broadcast TV since 2010. I don't miss it.
BobbyJo 4y ago
Your TV is already tracking everything you watch, and selling the data to 3rd parties.

LordDragonfang 4y ago

>find our stolen packages (as if that ever happens when the less equal animals are victim). I've read so many accounts of people with Ring footage of a theft who tried to give it to the police and they refused to even look at it. I don't think I've ever heard of someone actually getting stolen property back outside of a Mark Rober video. The police surveillance state isn't there for you, and people need to realize that. <stage whisper>It's there to serve the interests of Capital</stage whisper>

fearoffish 4y ago
> I've read so many accounts of people with Ring footage of a theft who tried to give it to the police and they refused to even look at it. It’s even worse than that. I showed them two sets of camera footage of staff in my retail shop stealing from the cash register, and tallied it up my accounts to prove the amount…and CPS said “not enough evidence”. The camera footage was so clear you could see the 20 on the notes.
- boomchinolo78 4y ago
  Wow, what country is this? Just to make sure I never live on it, even in rural LATAM you could persuade them to look into it. The lack of options in the first world is disgusting
  - lol768 4y ago
    Given the mention of the Crown Prosecution Service and the context of the article, I'm going to assume England (could possibly also be Wales).

function_seven 4y ago

> ...fine the teenager with a loud exhaust on his car ... I couldn't believe how mostly-positive the comments on this story[1] were! I get that loud cars at night suck ass. I've been there. I currently have a related problem of neighbors randomly lighting of fireworks at night, so I'm not unsympathetic to these quality-of-life issues. But there's something heartbreaking to see the hacker community—which was once overwhelmingly opposed to mass surveillance—starting to beg for it instead. Yeah, yeah, I know that HN is not a monolithic group; viewpoints do vary. But I can't shake the feeling that if the story below was posted to HN 10 years ago (or Slashdot 20 years ago), the comments would not have been so fawning. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31299641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31299641