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I think you're overblowing it a little bit there. As someone from London in the UK it's more nuanced. Firstly the stabbings are fairly infrequent and mostly is
by iasay 4y ago
I think you're overblowing it a little bit there. As someone from London in the UK it's more nuanced.
Firstly the stabbings are fairly infrequent and mostly isolated to territorial disputes between idiots and the odd psycho. You can walk past the perpetrators up to the eyeballs in Apple kit at midnight and say hello and they are fine and they actually help people in the local community. Just don't sell crack on their territory and you won't end up with any extra holes. I feel completely safe here unlike when I travel to the US.
Secondly most of the surveillance is broken or ineffective or unmanned so the possibility of a conviction or an issue from it is fairly low. Really no one is that bothered about it. That is amplified by the constant tales of incompetence in this area and anyone who's had any direct experience with it.
Realistically we do live in a bit of a pit of apathy but that's because it doesn't really have any detrimental effects on our lives on a daily basis. If it does then we tend to flip our shit rather rapidly and deal with it. Case in point a box junction camera was recently added to a very difficult to cross obscured junction. Bad decision by the council just to make money. After about a week someone burned the camera down. They replaced it. It lasted another week before it was burned again and they got the point.
- helios_invictus 4y agoI don't believe that the incompetence of the surveillance or police state is a defense of its existence or growth. Furthermore direct physical attacks against the infrastructure of the control only reinforce the perception that it's needed. Also it costs council resources to build, and repair it, resource that could be used for any number of other far more useful ends.
- iasay 4y agoI don't think it's a defence either. It's just how it is. The council never reinvests in infra that is destroyed. They don't work like you think they do.
- hammyhavoc 4y agoYou say this, but the number of folks I know in London who have been mugged for phones, handbags and wallets by blokes on scooters is unreal, in broad daylight too.
- iasay 4y agoThat's a rapidly declining issue now the met have started ramming them off the bikes. They know they're not getting away so there is risk.
- hammyhavoc 4y agoOK, so if you acknowledge that muggings on scooters were/are/were an issue, what do you think these former/would-be scooter muggers will do? Go back to do doing it on foot, which is in stark contrast to what the post I replied to said. Personally, I'd never stand with something like a Nintendo Switch out in public in "London", but it honestly depends on the area of London. Some are much worse than others for crime. I think the point is that whilst stabbings might not be high, the use of knives as a weapon to intimidate and mug people (going beyond just purse snatchers) is very effective, and much more common than you might imagine, nobody wants to get cut, and nobody really wants to stab anybody over a few hundred quid of electronics.