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One of the biggest problems is that most current gun violence doesn't necessarily represent any sort of targeted pattern (i.e. shooting up a political conventio
by thr0wawayf00 4y ago
One of the biggest problems is that most current gun violence doesn't necessarily represent any sort of targeted pattern (i.e. shooting up a political convention or party headquarters). It's malls and schools because that's such an easy way to create shock and awe.
If we do wind up in some sort of civil conflict, I imagine it will look a lot like Ireland from the 60's to the 90's, which was by no means a good time.[0]
0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles
- joe_the_user 4y agoSeveral of the recent shooting involved white supremacists targeting minorities, so it's not entirely untargeted.
- hopevillian 4y agosounds like you really havent done much investigation besides being told that.
- MonkeyMalarky 4y agoMosques, gay night clubs etc. have all been targets in the last few years. But a civil war isn't made of lone wolf attacks.
- _-david-_ 4y agoSeveral recent shootings have involved black supremacists as well. This isn't exactly one sided.
- wyldfire 4y agoThat certainly has happened more than once in recent history, but I thought it was interesting when I learned that many mass shooters are actually committing suicide [1]. > POLITICO: You’ve written about how mass shootings are always acts of violent suicide. Do people realize this is what’s happening in mass shootings? > Peterson: I don’t think most people realize that these are suicides, in addition to homicides. Mass shooters design these to be their final acts. When you realize this, it completely flips the idea that someone with a gun on the scene is going to deter this. If anything, that’s an incentive for these individuals. They are going in to be killed. [1] https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-m...
- CSMastermind 4y agoYeah it's really hard to imagine a full blown civil war just because of what the battlelines would be in a right-left split in the country. I've heard people jokingly say, "One side collects guns and the other collects mental disorders." That's obviously an unfair shot but there's some truth to it. Left leaning areas tend to be centered around city centers where right leaning areas tend to be rural and control things like shipping and food production. The police and the military all have a noticeable conservative bend at least at the lower levels. This wouldn't be a north vs south situation where each side would be roughly equally matched. In a true right vs left civil war, at least as the politics line up right now, the right faction would win by simply isolating and choking off the cities.
- westernmostcoy 4y agoRespectfully, this totally ignores that the funding for most things in this country comes right out of the cities. To use your terminology, "left leaning" places are ~70% of GDP. Also, just because some guys in rural areas collect guns compulsively doesn't mean they are remotely capable of becoming an organized militia.
- trasz 4y agoBut it's the right leaning majority that's ruling the country.
- notacoward 4y agoThe idea of a "right leaning majority" is pure propaganda.
- corrral 4y agoRight-leaning majority of the land, not the people, is closer to true.
- mywittyname 4y agoThe money is in the cities/suburbs. Any attempts to choke them off will inevitably hit everyone hard. At least those in cities will be close to aid delivery. Modern rural life is completely non-viable without copious amounts of gasoline. Plus, there's a lot that happens between farm to table in modern agriculture. COVID showed us just how sensitive our lifestyle is to disruptions.