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Why not just tax the tires? Seems like they are good indicator on how much you are using roads and how many miles you drove etc. (Safety maybe an argument. Don'

by mab122 4y ago

Why not just tax the tires? Seems like they are good indicator on how much you are using roads and how many miles you drove etc. (Safety maybe an argument. Don't do it so people don't drive on shitty old ones)

unglaublich 4y ago
Nice idea. Add a wear indicator and some DRM to it, and a modern service-based industry is born.
iso1631 4y ago
Or just look at the odometer each year at the MOT
phpisthebest 4y ago
Aside from the safety factor, tires do have an expiration date, like with most things tires are rated for time and mileage. ie 5 years or 50,000 miles Now most people only replace them at the milage limit like their oil because they run out their miles faster but for some people (like me) I tend to replace things on time more often because I do not drive that much
- warmwaffles 4y ago
  > ie 5 years or 50,000 miles It also depends on the make and where you live. I stretched my Yokohama's out to ~80k miles with good tread still left when I replaced them. But I live in the southern part of the US, so we don't have to deal with snow and ice cycles that cause tires to wear faster.
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    Heat breaks down rubber as well having "good tread" is not the only failure point or wear indicator, a tire can be bad while having "good tread"
    - warmwaffles 4y ago
      Of course, I inspect my tires weekly looking for sidewall damage, dry rot, and other various deformities. I also rotate my tires fairly frequently (every 8-10k miles usually coincides with oil change)
_ea1k 4y ago
That should work in places that have good inspection requirements. The downside is that it would penalize soft rubber as well as the usage of winter tires.
- mywittyname 4y ago
  UTQG can be a factor in the calculation. Use a formula to normalize all tires to UTQG1000 before applying the tax.
- cptskippy 4y ago
  There's a pollution aspect to be considered as well. Soft rubber tires are more polluting. Would using summer/winter tires change things? Yes you'd pay the tax on 2 pairs of tires but your wear/replacement interval would be prolonged on both sets wouldn't it?
1123581321 4y ago
An old tire buyback program would be better for road safety.

by mab122 4y ago

unglaublich 4y ago

Nice idea. Add a wear indicator and some DRM to it, and a modern service-based industry is born.

iso1631 4y ago

Or just look at the odometer each year at the MOT

phpisthebest 4y ago

Aside from the safety factor, tires do have an expiration date, like with most things tires are rated for time and mileage. ie 5 years or 50,000 miles Now most people only replace them at the milage limit like their oil because they run out their miles faster but for some people (like me) I tend to replace things on time more often because I do not drive that much

warmwaffles 4y ago
> ie 5 years or 50,000 miles It also depends on the make and where you live. I stretched my Yokohama's out to ~80k miles with good tread still left when I replaced them. But I live in the southern part of the US, so we don't have to deal with snow and ice cycles that cause tires to wear faster.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  Heat breaks down rubber as well having "good tread" is not the only failure point or wear indicator, a tire can be bad while having "good tread"
  - warmwaffles 4y ago
    Of course, I inspect my tires weekly looking for sidewall damage, dry rot, and other various deformities. I also rotate my tires fairly frequently (every 8-10k miles usually coincides with oil change)

_ea1k 4y ago

That should work in places that have good inspection requirements. The downside is that it would penalize soft rubber as well as the usage of winter tires.

mywittyname 4y ago
UTQG can be a factor in the calculation. Use a formula to normalize all tires to UTQG1000 before applying the tax.
cptskippy 4y ago
There's a pollution aspect to be considered as well. Soft rubber tires are more polluting. Would using summer/winter tires change things? Yes you'd pay the tax on 2 pairs of tires but your wear/replacement interval would be prolonged on both sets wouldn't it?

1123581321 4y ago

An old tire buyback program would be better for road safety.