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Have you considered that maybe we don't need everybody to work full time? We have not had enough jobs for everybody to do meaningful work for a while, and (mayb

by fefe23 4y ago

Have you considered that maybe we don't need everybody to work full time? We have not had enough jobs for everybody to do meaningful work for a while, and (maybe to stave off social unrest) we kept creating bullshit jobs (google the essay from David Graeber!) to keep those people occupied. I have always been fascinated by stories about explorers making first contact with a previously unknown tribe in the Amazon rainforest and discovering that they work maybe 2 hours a day and take the rest off for sleeping and social things. In my experience most "full time" work is performative at best anyway. You pretend to work while wasting time in meetings or on Facebook, and then, maybe one or two hours a day, if you are lucky, you get to do actual work that is actually needed by someone else. It's not just about the salary. Our lifetime is our only truly irreplaceable resource. We shouldn't be wasting it like this.

imtringued 4y ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKd6WURBqOY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKd6WURBqOY
Buttons840 4y ago
I've been down voted repeatedly for this suggestion, but still think it's a good idea. Instead of raising minimum wage, require all jobs to offer like 3 or 4 months paid vacation a year. It will benefit everyone, and those who need more money can work a second job while on vacation from the first (so they won't actually be working more hours and will have 2 incomes). The poor having 2 jobs will also give them leverage to get out of manipulative work situations and it will increase market mobility. There will also be widespread family and community benefits.
rhino369 4y ago
While there are definitely inefficiencies all over the place, companies generally don't hire people to do make-work. If it was simple to just pick out the people doing 10 hours of work a week, they'd find and fire those people. It's just not very easy. Your lifestyle is supported by people working pretty damn hard. The people picking your amazon order and making your food at a meat plant are not playing grab ass on facebook for 80% of their shift. 8 billion people can't enjoy a hunter/forager lifestyle on this planet.

by fefe23 4y ago

imtringued 4y ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKd6WURBqOY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKd6WURBqOY

Buttons840 4y ago

I've been down voted repeatedly for this suggestion, but still think it's a good idea. Instead of raising minimum wage, require all jobs to offer like 3 or 4 months paid vacation a year. It will benefit everyone, and those who need more money can work a second job while on vacation from the first (so they won't actually be working more hours and will have 2 incomes). The poor having 2 jobs will also give them leverage to get out of manipulative work situations and it will increase market mobility. There will also be widespread family and community benefits.

rhino369 4y ago

While there are definitely inefficiencies all over the place, companies generally don't hire people to do make-work. If it was simple to just pick out the people doing 10 hours of work a week, they'd find and fire those people. It's just not very easy. Your lifestyle is supported by people working pretty damn hard. The people picking your amazon order and making your food at a meat plant are not playing grab ass on facebook for 80% of their shift. 8 billion people can't enjoy a hunter/forager lifestyle on this planet.