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So how does the universe itself “calculates” things in real time. How do so many operation “render” on the quantum/classical scale. Forces adapt in real time?

• fartsucker69 4y ago
  the universe doesn't calculate anything. it just happens. this is also why I think that artificial consciousness (big difference to intelligence) is a whole lot harder than many people think. a stack of papers where someone has manually written the neural net (or whatever technology) computation and results is unlikely to have a subjective experience. because there is an indirection between a simulation and the real world. the simulation is a computation. the real world happens.
  • Baloo 4y ago
    Perhaps consciousness is not one single 'flavour', but comes in lots of different varieties?
  • zelphirkalt 4y ago
    Could we devise a process, which makes things "just happen", so that consciousness results? I think that is the question. I don't see, why it should be impossible to do so.
    • prox 4y ago
      What you are saying aligns a lot with the “emergent consciousness” line of thinking. It means that consciousness appears out of the complexity of our wiring.
• RedNifre 4y ago
  It's not necessarily real time, you only experience time at the same rate, no matter how fast the universe is calculating in meta time. Or maybe time is a 4th spacial dimension, then the universe would be a finished, static thing, no more calculations needed (you would experience time in the sense that characters in a movie experience time, even though the film roll already contains all the frames)
• TheOtherHobbes 4y ago
  No one knows. Even the idea that anything is being calculated is a supposition. There appear to be relationships between entities and some of them can be modelled using human math on human-accessible time scales. But although some of the models have potentially infinite precision the universe itself clearly doesn't on any scale. Or if it does, it's not accessible to us. So whatever is happening may use some other paradigm to manage relationships, and the entities and relationships we see are emergent and not at all fundamental.
• bowsamic 4y ago
  Physics is a model for us to estimate and in some way explain phenomena we see in the universe, it isn't the way that the universe itself produces phenomena
  • prox 4y ago
    It’s interesting to ponder how phenomena come about : energy, matter, dimensions, consciousness that can reflect on phenomena.
• tresqotheq 4y ago
  no haya banda! Its all a tape recording! https://youtu.be/oJDlipYYaFQ https://youtu.be/oJDlipYYaFQ