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I never ask for sources but 75-90%? This doesn’t seem likely short of cherry picking.

kcplate 4y ago
This link below. Look at the statistics related to this question: Thinking more generally, do you think abortion should generally be legal or generally illegal during each of the following stages of pregnancy. Then compare those stats to this question: With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life? A majority identify as pro-choice, but apparently do not believe that choice should extend past the 3 months of pregnancy. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
1123581321 4y ago
There are a lot of ways to slice those statistics. I’m guessing they got theirs from “Most Americans open to some restrictions on abortion” in the Pew data. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abortion-quandary/ https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abo...
- bradlys 4y ago
  The other issue is that most Americans also don’t know anything about abortion. They have opinions about things they know nothing about - when confronted and informed they turn out to be even more left leaning than initially thought. They think people abort fetuses at 8 months because they’re feeling frisky - like women suddenly have regrets after carrying something in them after six months and only decide then to abort. Most people in the USA have brain rot and are incredibly uninformed and stupid.
  - kcplate 4y ago
    > They think people abort fetuses at 8 months because they’re feeling frisky - like women suddenly have regrets after carrying something in them after six months and only decide then to abort. No, I don’t think that is the case, its not that people believe that it is common, the issue is that the Democratic Party has stated that they want women to have that ability to make that choice all the way to birth. That position is a disconnect with the electorate. Majority of the populace wants elective choice up to 3 months, then it falls off dramatically. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
    - bradlys 4y ago
      Again - this is because the public thinks abortion is a finicky woman choice being dramatic in the final moments. They’re uninformed and don’t know anything about abortion. It’s like asking the public about monetary policy - they have opinions but they’re all shaped by the media and the fact that they know nothing about monetary policy to begin with. Most Americans really know nothing but will have opinions anyway. This is the issue I’m talking about. When they are informed - their opinions change dramatically.
      - kcplate 4y ago
        > Again. - this is because the public thinks abortion is a finicky woman choice being dramatic in the final moments Well that might be your opinion, but in my experience everyone I know that sit on the pro-life side of this debate seem to have concern for the fetus driving their opinion, more than “finicky woman choice being dramatic in the final moments” being the driver. I think that is why polling dramatically starts shifting at the point within the pregnancy where the fetus starts developing into the recognizable human form. It’s easy to disconnect the humanity from a fetus when it’s physical characteristics are no different from other animals. However, once it becomes recognizably human, it makes it more difficult for people to be advocates of abortion choice. The democrats don’t want to acknowledge this moral difficulty. They even try to avoid words like “baby”, “person”, and “child”. Recently was some news around President Biden’s slip of the tongue on the topic. https://twitter.com/DanODonnellShow/status/1521521708926185473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1521521708926185473%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2022%2Fmay%2F4%2Fbiden-bungles-pro-choice-talking-point-use-word-ch%2F https://twitter.com/DanODonnellShow/status/15215217089261854...
    - locopati 4y ago
  - 1123581321 4y ago
    That's probably partly true since the debate over late-term elective abortion does bring in the motivations of the mothers as potential qualifiers, but that is only a subset of the debate and issues.

This link below. Look at the statistics related to this question: Thinking more generally, do you think abortion should generally be legal or generally illegal during each of the following stages of pregnancy. Then compare those stats to this question: With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life? A majority identify as pro-choice, but apparently do not believe that choice should extend past the 3 months of pregnancy. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

1123581321 4y ago

There are a lot of ways to slice those statistics. I’m guessing they got theirs from “Most Americans open to some restrictions on abortion” in the Pew data. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abortion-quandary/ https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abo...

bradlys 4y ago
The other issue is that most Americans also don’t know anything about abortion. They have opinions about things they know nothing about - when confronted and informed they turn out to be even more left leaning than initially thought. They think people abort fetuses at 8 months because they’re feeling frisky - like women suddenly have regrets after carrying something in them after six months and only decide then to abort. Most people in the USA have brain rot and are incredibly uninformed and stupid.
- kcplate 4y ago
  > They think people abort fetuses at 8 months because they’re feeling frisky - like women suddenly have regrets after carrying something in them after six months and only decide then to abort. No, I don’t think that is the case, its not that people believe that it is common, the issue is that the Democratic Party has stated that they want women to have that ability to make that choice all the way to birth. That position is a disconnect with the electorate. Majority of the populace wants elective choice up to 3 months, then it falls off dramatically. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
  - bradlys 4y ago
    Again - this is because the public thinks abortion is a finicky woman choice being dramatic in the final moments. They’re uninformed and don’t know anything about abortion. It’s like asking the public about monetary policy - they have opinions but they’re all shaped by the media and the fact that they know nothing about monetary policy to begin with. Most Americans really know nothing but will have opinions anyway. This is the issue I’m talking about. When they are informed - their opinions change dramatically.
    - kcplate 4y ago
      > Again. - this is because the public thinks abortion is a finicky woman choice being dramatic in the final moments Well that might be your opinion, but in my experience everyone I know that sit on the pro-life side of this debate seem to have concern for the fetus driving their opinion, more than “finicky woman choice being dramatic in the final moments” being the driver. I think that is why polling dramatically starts shifting at the point within the pregnancy where the fetus starts developing into the recognizable human form. It’s easy to disconnect the humanity from a fetus when it’s physical characteristics are no different from other animals. However, once it becomes recognizably human, it makes it more difficult for people to be advocates of abortion choice. The democrats don’t want to acknowledge this moral difficulty. They even try to avoid words like “baby”, “person”, and “child”. Recently was some news around President Biden’s slip of the tongue on the topic. https://twitter.com/DanODonnellShow/status/1521521708926185473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1521521708926185473%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2022%2Fmay%2F4%2Fbiden-bungles-pro-choice-talking-point-use-word-ch%2F https://twitter.com/DanODonnellShow/status/15215217089261854...
  - locopati 4y ago
- 1123581321 4y ago
  That's probably partly true since the debate over late-term elective abortion does bring in the motivations of the mothers as potential qualifiers, but that is only a subset of the debate and issues.