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Yes another reason people should leave these corporate run media sites.

by jmclnx 4y ago

warning26 4y ago
I would go further and say that all social media should be outright banned, corporate or not
- smeej 4y ago
  Social media is optional. You don't have to use it. I don't. But not letting other people send messages over the internet through platforms created for the purpose because you don't like it is a special level of heavy-handed dictating.
  - bensherman 4y ago
    You are on it. Right now.
    - leereeves 4y ago
      There's a big difference between personal social media like Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc and topical discussion sites like HN. I'm sure GP meant the former.
  - tgv 4y ago
    Smoking is optional. Guns are optional. Nukes are optional. Still needs to be regulated. How long before society accepts that damage is being caused by mobile phones and social media?
- gsatic 4y ago
  Building everything on top of collecting Likes/Followers seems to be the issue.
nl 4y ago
There's nothing about this campaign that is caused by or made worse by the fact it is a corporate media site. Names - whether they be DNS names or Instagram handles or trademarks - are valuable.
- egypturnash 4y ago
  This is definitely a problem of social media IMHO. When you can be @ginger@some.domain by just finding a Fediverse server where nobody's decided to be @ginger yet, or getting someone in your circles with the resources to stand up a server, there's a lot less competition than when there can only be one @ginger on all of Instagram across the entire world. Someone could still decide that being @ginger@prestigious.domain is Worth Something and start harassing you for having it but it's a lot less likely.
  - hammyhavoc 4y ago
    You're missing the point that you might want @me:yourname.domain, but someone has already registered the domain. Real names aren't unique either. This is why domains frequently change hands for a lot of money.
    - egypturnash 4y ago
      True, but this greatly expands the name space for people who are content to be an account on someone else’s server. The name space of domains is also a lot larger now that we have tons of TLDs.
  - nl 4y ago
    This accomplishing precisely nothing except moving the problem to another layer. > A man who enlisted his cousin to break into a Cedar Rapids man’s home and order him at gunpoint to transfer an Internet domain was sentenced today to 14 years in federal prison. https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndia/pr/social-media-influencer-sentenced-14-years-federal-prison-after-plotting-hijack https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndia/pr/social-media-influencer...
motoxpro 4y ago
I agree that this is terrible and that it is the responsibility of the companies to protect their customers, but theft happens with anything that's valuable. Domain names, email addresses, cars, etc. These can be "decentralized" but it doesn't mean that people wont try to figure out your password or find your keys so that they can steal them.

Yes another reason people should leave these corporate run media sites.

by jmclnx 4y ago

Yes another reason people should leave these corporate run media sites.

warning26 4y ago

I would go further and say that all social media should be outright banned, corporate or not

smeej 4y ago
Social media is optional. You don't have to use it. I don't. But not letting other people send messages over the internet through platforms created for the purpose because you don't like it is a special level of heavy-handed dictating.
- bensherman 4y ago
  You are on it. Right now.
  - leereeves 4y ago
    There's a big difference between personal social media like Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc and topical discussion sites like HN. I'm sure GP meant the former.
- tgv 4y ago
  Smoking is optional. Guns are optional. Nukes are optional. Still needs to be regulated. How long before society accepts that damage is being caused by mobile phones and social media?
gsatic 4y ago
Building everything on top of collecting Likes/Followers seems to be the issue.

nl 4y ago

There's nothing about this campaign that is caused by or made worse by the fact it is a corporate media site. Names - whether they be DNS names or Instagram handles or trademarks - are valuable.

egypturnash 4y ago
This is definitely a problem of social media IMHO. When you can be @ginger@some.domain by just finding a Fediverse server where nobody's decided to be @ginger yet, or getting someone in your circles with the resources to stand up a server, there's a lot less competition than when there can only be one @ginger on all of Instagram across the entire world. Someone could still decide that being @ginger@prestigious.domain is Worth Something and start harassing you for having it but it's a lot less likely.
- hammyhavoc 4y ago
  You're missing the point that you might want @me:yourname.domain, but someone has already registered the domain. Real names aren't unique either. This is why domains frequently change hands for a lot of money.
  - egypturnash 4y ago
    True, but this greatly expands the name space for people who are content to be an account on someone else’s server. The name space of domains is also a lot larger now that we have tons of TLDs.
- nl 4y ago
  This accomplishing precisely nothing except moving the problem to another layer. > A man who enlisted his cousin to break into a Cedar Rapids man’s home and order him at gunpoint to transfer an Internet domain was sentenced today to 14 years in federal prison. https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndia/pr/social-media-influencer-sentenced-14-years-federal-prison-after-plotting-hijack https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndia/pr/social-media-influencer...

motoxpro 4y ago

I agree that this is terrible and that it is the responsibility of the companies to protect their customers, but theft happens with anything that's valuable. Domain names, email addresses, cars, etc. These can be "decentralized" but it doesn't mean that people wont try to figure out your password or find your keys so that they can steal them.