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No. They deliberately set up the constitution to favor the less populous states, and state constitutions largely did the same. If you actually poll people on i

No. They deliberately set up the constitution to favor the less populous states, and state constitutions largely did the same. If you actually poll people on individual issues, rural people often agree with the Democrats. The parties aren't particularly representative of people's underlying opinions.

kcplate 4y ago
The problem is with those polling questions that support Democratic Party issues is they are generally describing significantly softer positions than the democrats actual positions. Abortion is a good example. A majority of people when polled, will agree with abortion access being important. However, that support falls apart if you caveat the question “to provide access beyond the age of fetal viability and possibly all the way up to birth”. This is the Democratic Party’s actual position. Prior to viability, there might be majority support, but post viability and up to birth people are about 75-90% against.
- hellisothers 4y ago
  I never ask for sources but 75-90%? This doesn’t seem likely short of cherry picking.
  - kcplate 4y ago
    This link below. Look at the statistics related to this question: Thinking more generally, do you think abortion should generally be legal or generally illegal during each of the following stages of pregnancy. Then compare those stats to this question: With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life? A majority identify as pro-choice, but apparently do not believe that choice should extend past the 3 months of pregnancy. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
  - 1123581321 4y ago
    There are a lot of ways to slice those statistics. I’m guessing they got theirs from “Most Americans open to some restrictions on abortion” in the Pew data. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abortion-quandary/ https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abo...
    - bradlys 4y ago
      The other issue is that most Americans also don’t know anything about abortion. They have opinions about things they know nothing about - when confronted and informed they turn out to be even more left leaning than initially thought. They think people abort fetuses at 8 months because they’re feeling frisky - like women suddenly have regrets after carrying something in them after six months and only decide then to abort. Most people in the USA have brain rot and are incredibly uninformed and stupid.
      - kcplate 4y ago
        > They think people abort fetuses at 8 months because they’re feeling frisky - like women suddenly have regrets after carrying something in them after six months and only decide then to abort. No, I don’t think that is the case, its not that people believe that it is common, the issue is that the Democratic Party has stated that they want women to have that ability to make that choice all the way to birth. That position is a disconnect with the electorate. Majority of the populace wants elective choice up to 3 months, then it falls off dramatically. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
        bradlys 4y ago
        Again - this is because the public thinks abortion is a finicky woman choice being dramatic in the final moments. They’re uninformed and don’t know anything about abortion. It’s like asking the public about monetary policy - they have opinions but they’re all shaped by the media and the fact that they know nothing about monetary policy to begin with. Most Americans really know nothing but will have opinions anyway. This is the issue I’m talking about. When they are informed - their opinions change dramatically.

kcplate 4y ago

The problem is with those polling questions that support Democratic Party issues is they are generally describing significantly softer positions than the democrats actual positions. Abortion is a good example. A majority of people when polled, will agree with abortion access being important. However, that support falls apart if you caveat the question “to provide access beyond the age of fetal viability and possibly all the way up to birth”. This is the Democratic Party’s actual position. Prior to viability, there might be majority support, but post viability and up to birth people are about 75-90% against.

hellisothers 4y ago
I never ask for sources but 75-90%? This doesn’t seem likely short of cherry picking.
- kcplate 4y ago
  This link below. Look at the statistics related to this question: Thinking more generally, do you think abortion should generally be legal or generally illegal during each of the following stages of pregnancy. Then compare those stats to this question: With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life? A majority identify as pro-choice, but apparently do not believe that choice should extend past the 3 months of pregnancy. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
- 1123581321 4y ago
  There are a lot of ways to slice those statistics. I’m guessing they got theirs from “Most Americans open to some restrictions on abortion” in the Pew data. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abortion-quandary/ https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/05/06/americas-abo...
  - bradlys 4y ago
    The other issue is that most Americans also don’t know anything about abortion. They have opinions about things they know nothing about - when confronted and informed they turn out to be even more left leaning than initially thought. They think people abort fetuses at 8 months because they’re feeling frisky - like women suddenly have regrets after carrying something in them after six months and only decide then to abort. Most people in the USA have brain rot and are incredibly uninformed and stupid.
    - kcplate 4y ago
      > They think people abort fetuses at 8 months because they’re feeling frisky - like women suddenly have regrets after carrying something in them after six months and only decide then to abort. No, I don’t think that is the case, its not that people believe that it is common, the issue is that the Democratic Party has stated that they want women to have that ability to make that choice all the way to birth. That position is a disconnect with the electorate. Majority of the populace wants elective choice up to 3 months, then it falls off dramatically. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
      - bradlys 4y ago
        Again - this is because the public thinks abortion is a finicky woman choice being dramatic in the final moments. They’re uninformed and don’t know anything about abortion. It’s like asking the public about monetary policy - they have opinions but they’re all shaped by the media and the fact that they know nothing about monetary policy to begin with. Most Americans really know nothing but will have opinions anyway. This is the issue I’m talking about. When they are informed - their opinions change dramatically.