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As the aphorism goes "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". Seems like you'll only do things that make a significant contribution. Yes, wit

As the aphorism goes "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". Seems like you'll only do things that make a significant contribution. Yes, with drinking straws it was a symbolic action, and yes you risk people thinking "ok, done it". But the current alternative is no action at all. We need to start, take the first small steps before chastising ourselves for not having gone any miles yet.

gruez 4y ago
>But the current alternative is no action at all. Why is there a dichotomy of "fund low impact project that's relevant to this thread" and "do nothing at all"?
- pbhjpbhj 4y ago
  What's the currently presented third option for management of disposable electronics with lithium cells?
BurningFrog 4y ago
> But the current alternative is no action at all Most of the world is spending huge effort to decarbonize. May well not be enough, but it's very different from nothing. I strongly recommend that, wherever you get your news from, try looking somewhere else!!
- pbhjpbhj 4y ago
  Sorry, what else is being done about disposable electronics containing lithium cells? Could you recommend a news story (UK specific, preferably) with details of other projects in the context of the OP. Fwiw, I don't doubt that I'm not aware of every environmental project in this space. Thanks.
  - BurningFrog 4y ago
    I'm talking about action to combat climate change. If you're talking about the sub-sub-set of that which is disposable electronics containing lithium cells, we were talking past each other.
Schroedingersat 4y ago
Then the first step is one of transit/bike paths, removing beef and milk from your diet, or improving your insulation to at least rsi 5. Repairability is a major issue, but a minor tweak like that is a finger in the dam. More effective would be mandating schematics and extending default warranties to include third party repair for 5 years or so.

gruez 4y ago

>But the current alternative is no action at all. Why is there a dichotomy of "fund low impact project that's relevant to this thread" and "do nothing at all"?

pbhjpbhj 4y ago
What's the currently presented third option for management of disposable electronics with lithium cells?

BurningFrog 4y ago

> But the current alternative is no action at all Most of the world is spending huge effort to decarbonize. May well not be enough, but it's very different from nothing. I strongly recommend that, wherever you get your news from, try looking somewhere else!!

pbhjpbhj 4y ago
Sorry, what else is being done about disposable electronics containing lithium cells? Could you recommend a news story (UK specific, preferably) with details of other projects in the context of the OP. Fwiw, I don't doubt that I'm not aware of every environmental project in this space. Thanks.
- BurningFrog 4y ago
  I'm talking about action to combat climate change. If you're talking about the sub-sub-set of that which is disposable electronics containing lithium cells, we were talking past each other.

Schroedingersat 4y ago

Then the first step is one of transit/bike paths, removing beef and milk from your diet, or improving your insulation to at least rsi 5. Repairability is a major issue, but a minor tweak like that is a finger in the dam. More effective would be mandating schematics and extending default warranties to include third party repair for 5 years or so.