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You'll have to pry Firefox from my cold, dead hands! At the outset, yes, chromium based browsers feel snappier.. But, stuff that Chrome will not have and are

You'll have to pry Firefox from my cold, dead hands! At the outset, yes, chromium based browsers feel snappier.. But, stuff that Chrome will not have and are absolutely essential 1. Containers... I use another unverified extension to match urls and automatically assign containers... 2. Ublock origin 3. Tree style tabs 4. Developer console... Edit and resend any request That said, i still end up using chromium for teams and outlook 365 (pwa install feature is nice)... But that's only because i don't have any other options with those two

amelius 4y ago
Perhaps someone can build a container system around chrome (or in fact any application). Ideally, an OS should be able to do something like this.
- zamadatix 4y ago
  The way Firefox style containers work they need to be "built into" not "built around". It's not as much about creating a profile and running it separately (that's just standard profiles in Chrome/Firefox, or normal OS level sandboxing) as it is auto-launching webpage requests into that profile based on matches and integrating the profiles into the app UI so the tabs stand out, can co-exist in the same window, and can be managed via built in tab creation UI. Chromium hasn't been interested in this feature but nothing would stop someone from making a Chromium derivative that does this.
- zh3 4y ago
  On linux, just create a separate login and use Chrome there. In fact, what I do is create a separate user, start Chrome once, do any configuration I want and then create a tarball of the separate user's home directory. Then to start a fresh it's just a wipe of the whole directory and unpack the tarball again. It's fast enough to just run Chrome in a loop, and on each exit wipe and unpack the original state again. I call it Groundhog Day Mode.
  - chupasaurus 4y ago
    On Linux you could do the same with mount namespace without making a separate user etc.
  - kovac 4y ago
    Or you can just use Firefox.
    - zh3 4y ago
      I used to do this on Firefox, it's where I learnt the trick (before some sites made it necessary to use Chrome, and before Firefox had containers).
  - nl 4y ago
    This loses substantial affordances Firefox containers give you (eg, right click->open in container, always open domain in container, access to bookmarks etc)
- vachina 4y ago
  Why not use the native user profile function? E.g. set up a “user profile” dedicated to access only Meta/Facebook properties (and therefore only be able to track you within that container)
theden 4y ago
uBlock Origin does exist on chrome btw https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa...
- feanaro 4y ago
  But with Manifest v2 will be crippled.
  - sieabahlpark 4y ago
  - feanaro 4y ago
    As the other poster said, I meant Manifest v3 (can't edit anymore). To answer the poster's curiosity, I messed it up by pressing the neighbouring key by accident and not checking sufficiently. :-P
- rocho 4y ago
  As far as I know Chrome has its own tracking which can't be blocked.
  - hammyhavoc 4y ago
    Is this not why people use Chromium?
- SixDouble5321 4y ago
  It's not feature complete.
  - grupthink 4y ago
    What features are incomplete?
    - 4y ago
ghjnut 4y ago
Which container extension are you using for domain grouping? I've been looking for a good one
- rraghur 4y ago
  https://gitlab.com/NamingThingsIsHard/firefox/bifulushi https://gitlab.com/NamingThingsIsHard/firefox/bifulushi It's a fork of kintesh/containerise which seems unmaintained and had case problems. It's not on FF addons site - so please satisfy yourself that it isn't doing sinister stuff before installing.
SixDouble5321 4y ago
I am confused about the "I don't have any other choice" comment. I assume you mean because Firefox doesn't support whatever teams uses for meeting audio/video, or maybe it's the install feature you mentioned, but I use Firefox for both and use my phone for meetings.
- whitesilhouette 4y ago
  There are times when I've noticed Teams to fail if I try to open it from one of my Container tabs. It complains about supported browser and stuff. But it opens perfectly on the default tab always.
- rraghur 4y ago
  basically that workplace uses teams & office Teams web is crippled on FF with no video sharing & filters last I checked... Teams app is also crippled on linux - so the webapp is preferable. Outlook's been broken the last week - just doesn't load and the service worker seems to get stuck in a loop.
  - andrew_lvov 4y ago
    Have you tried clearing cookies & session store ?
wizofaus 4y ago
"4. Developer console... Edit and resend any request" - there have been extensions for that in Chrome for a long time, though I don't know if they integrate with the developer tools/network tab itself. Agree it would be handy - I use the "replay" command in Chrome DevTools quite a bit, and if I need to modify it usually end up importing it into Postman (via the copy as cURL command, which I believe Firefox also supports).

amelius 4y ago

Perhaps someone can build a container system around chrome (or in fact any application). Ideally, an OS should be able to do something like this.

zamadatix 4y ago
The way Firefox style containers work they need to be "built into" not "built around". It's not as much about creating a profile and running it separately (that's just standard profiles in Chrome/Firefox, or normal OS level sandboxing) as it is auto-launching webpage requests into that profile based on matches and integrating the profiles into the app UI so the tabs stand out, can co-exist in the same window, and can be managed via built in tab creation UI. Chromium hasn't been interested in this feature but nothing would stop someone from making a Chromium derivative that does this.
zh3 4y ago
On linux, just create a separate login and use Chrome there. In fact, what I do is create a separate user, start Chrome once, do any configuration I want and then create a tarball of the separate user's home directory. Then to start a fresh it's just a wipe of the whole directory and unpack the tarball again. It's fast enough to just run Chrome in a loop, and on each exit wipe and unpack the original state again. I call it Groundhog Day Mode.
- chupasaurus 4y ago
  On Linux you could do the same with mount namespace without making a separate user etc.
- kovac 4y ago
  Or you can just use Firefox.
  - zh3 4y ago
    I used to do this on Firefox, it's where I learnt the trick (before some sites made it necessary to use Chrome, and before Firefox had containers).
- nl 4y ago
  This loses substantial affordances Firefox containers give you (eg, right click->open in container, always open domain in container, access to bookmarks etc)
vachina 4y ago
Why not use the native user profile function? E.g. set up a “user profile” dedicated to access only Meta/Facebook properties (and therefore only be able to track you within that container)

theden 4y ago

uBlock Origin does exist on chrome btw https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa...

feanaro 4y ago
But with Manifest v2 will be crippled.
- sieabahlpark 4y ago
- feanaro 4y ago
  As the other poster said, I meant Manifest v3 (can't edit anymore). To answer the poster's curiosity, I messed it up by pressing the neighbouring key by accident and not checking sufficiently. :-P
rocho 4y ago
As far as I know Chrome has its own tracking which can't be blocked.
- hammyhavoc 4y ago
  Is this not why people use Chromium?
SixDouble5321 4y ago
It's not feature complete.
- grupthink 4y ago
  What features are incomplete?
  - 4y ago

ghjnut 4y ago

Which container extension are you using for domain grouping? I've been looking for a good one

rraghur 4y ago
https://gitlab.com/NamingThingsIsHard/firefox/bifulushi https://gitlab.com/NamingThingsIsHard/firefox/bifulushi It's a fork of kintesh/containerise which seems unmaintained and had case problems. It's not on FF addons site - so please satisfy yourself that it isn't doing sinister stuff before installing.

SixDouble5321 4y ago

I am confused about the "I don't have any other choice" comment. I assume you mean because Firefox doesn't support whatever teams uses for meeting audio/video, or maybe it's the install feature you mentioned, but I use Firefox for both and use my phone for meetings.

whitesilhouette 4y ago
There are times when I've noticed Teams to fail if I try to open it from one of my Container tabs. It complains about supported browser and stuff. But it opens perfectly on the default tab always.
rraghur 4y ago
basically that workplace uses teams & office Teams web is crippled on FF with no video sharing & filters last I checked... Teams app is also crippled on linux - so the webapp is preferable. Outlook's been broken the last week - just doesn't load and the service worker seems to get stuck in a loop.
- andrew_lvov 4y ago
  Have you tried clearing cookies & session store ?

wizofaus 4y ago

"4. Developer console... Edit and resend any request" - there have been extensions for that in Chrome for a long time, though I don't know if they integrate with the developer tools/network tab itself. Agree it would be handy - I use the "replay" command in Chrome DevTools quite a bit, and if I need to modify it usually end up importing it into Postman (via the copy as cURL command, which I believe Firefox also supports).