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What's the explanation for this? I mean, surely the explanation isn't that Trump is secretly a well informed and thoughtful person?

lazide 4y ago
That he likes calling out an occasional hypocrite now and then, and is familiar with Russian power dynamics in the west?
- XorNot 4y ago
  He's not though. He was probably given some version of that statement as part of a briefing, but more importantly his businesses and campaign finance were incredibly entangled with Russian money and oligarchs at pretty much every level[1,2], not to mention his bizarre interactions with Putin. This was his version of simply yelling the same insult back at people he didn't like: and he really didn't like Merkel (or any European leader) because unlike the despots and dictators they wouldn't just suck up to him (notably Shinzo Abe figured him out immediately and went all in on the obvious play for favor[3]) [1] https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates... [3] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/18/japans-abe-nominated-trump-for-nobel-peace-prize-on-us-request-asahi.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/18/japans-abe-nominated-trump-f...
  - lazide 4y ago
    None of that contradicts what I was saying? You don’t have to not be a hypocrite to enjoy calling out others as hypocrites when it serves your purpose? In fact, if anything, being a hypocrite makes it even easier since you don’t need to worry about if you’re being a hypocrite while doing it!
ibeckermayer 4y ago
My explanation is that it doesn’t actually take a lot of deep thought to understand this dynamic. The guy who runs your local hardware store could’ve figured this one out, given the information. The problem is that the over “educated” and credentialed class of political elites weren’t ever taught elementary common sense in their textbooks, and have never operated within institutions that have held them accountable for it. Ergo the outsized elite hatred for Trump among the managerial elite caste, who shone a spotlight on the astonishing triviality of their ineptitude.
- sdfhdhjdw3 4y ago

lazide 4y ago

That he likes calling out an occasional hypocrite now and then, and is familiar with Russian power dynamics in the west?

XorNot 4y ago
He's not though. He was probably given some version of that statement as part of a briefing, but more importantly his businesses and campaign finance were incredibly entangled with Russian money and oligarchs at pretty much every level[1,2], not to mention his bizarre interactions with Putin. This was his version of simply yelling the same insult back at people he didn't like: and he really didn't like Merkel (or any European leader) because unlike the despots and dictators they wouldn't just suck up to him (notably Shinzo Abe figured him out immediately and went all in on the obvious play for favor[3]) [1] https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates... [3] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/18/japans-abe-nominated-trump-for-nobel-peace-prize-on-us-request-asahi.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/18/japans-abe-nominated-trump-f...
- lazide 4y ago
  None of that contradicts what I was saying? You don’t have to not be a hypocrite to enjoy calling out others as hypocrites when it serves your purpose? In fact, if anything, being a hypocrite makes it even easier since you don’t need to worry about if you’re being a hypocrite while doing it!

ibeckermayer 4y ago

My explanation is that it doesn’t actually take a lot of deep thought to understand this dynamic. The guy who runs your local hardware store could’ve figured this one out, given the information. The problem is that the over “educated” and credentialed class of political elites weren’t ever taught elementary common sense in their textbooks, and have never operated within institutions that have held them accountable for it. Ergo the outsized elite hatred for Trump among the managerial elite caste, who shone a spotlight on the astonishing triviality of their ineptitude.

sdfhdhjdw3 4y ago