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Yeah, he was heading actual Nazi parades. There are enough videos on YouTube with him at the rallies wearing a leather jacket with saluting neo-Nazis around. H

Yeah, he was heading actual Nazi parades. There are enough videos on YouTube with him at the rallies wearing a leather jacket with saluting neo-Nazis around. He also uses N-words and F-words freely. He first gained notoriety at 2003 parliament elections leading a pro-Putin ultranationalist party Rodina. One of Rodina’s TV ads were comparing Caucausus people to street trash. People say though that Rogozin is not a big believer in anything, he’s just a huge cynical careerist coming from a very privileged nomenclature background riding any wave that brings him to the top. Right now he’s one of the major pro-war hawks.

theplumber 4y ago
>> N-words and F-words freely. What are the F words? Fascist?
- lotusmars 4y ago
  A slur word used against gay people.
  - sam_lowry_ 4y ago
    Hm... my English is not good enough to guess it :-( As for the N-word, there is a similarly sounding but fairly neutral Russian word which was OK to use until the influence of the US culture tarnished it.
    - dekhn 4y ago
      it's also used to refer to a bundle of wood in england.
      - sam_lowry_ 4y ago
        Thanks, now I get it. Now... what's the Russian F-word that Rogozin was apparently using? гомик? педик? these are pejorative rather than grossly offensive. пидорас is probably the best translation, but it is more of a slur than a contentful word. I am genuinely puzzled.
        lotusmars 4y ago
        In Russia homophobia is such an integral part of society and day to day life (due to prison culture) that those horrific, dehumanizing and derogatory words you’ve mentioned are actually considered “pejorative rather than grossly offensive” N-word as well. Ordinary Russians will fight tooth and nail for their right to use this word.
        theplumber 4y ago
        >> N-word as well. Ordinary Russians will fight tooth and nail for their right to use this word. To be honest I believe the americans promoted the n-word and they still do it MORE than anyone else(i.e russia). Just listen a random rap song or watch a movie with black people. It seems part of the american culture. As someone from a small European country I couldn't really understand how a word can be both "forbidden" and widely used by the offended party. Nevertheless offensive words are offensives and we should try to avoid using them but talking about F word and N word and B word and M word even in a neutral context seems a bit too much censorship. We are not kids to be told we are not allowed to say specific words. And it looks like now another word is going to be forbidden: H word.
        sam_lowry_ 4y ago
        Hello word?
- tut-urut-utut 4y ago
kingofpandora 4y ago
> Yeah, he was heading actual Nazi parades. There are enough videos on YouTube with him at the rallies wearing a leather jacket with saluting neo-Nazis around. He also uses N-words and F-words freely. > One of Rodina’s TV ads were comparing Caucausus people to street trash. This seems to be a common trait across the political spectrum in Russia. The darling of the west, Alexei Navalny, is just as nationalist and xenophobic, and while he doesn't compare people from the Caucasus as trash, he did compare them to vermin that need to be exterminated in his TV ads.
- lotusmars 4y ago
  It’s because there’s a huge support for these views in Russia. And any politician who actually wants to succeed is bound to channel this energy or at least address it. Russia has severe ongoing problems with national tensions and conflicts. Not only between Russians and other nations but among those nations as well (e.g. ingush vs chechen). Main reason is that Russia was built as a colonialist empire. Most ethnic regions had nothing in common except for being conquered. That led to bad blood such as ongoing ethnic conflicts, disputed regions and insurgencies being crushed by Kremlin using mostly ethnically white army. Multiple bombings of Grozny easily rival current destruction of Ukraine, along with mass rape and pillaging. Conscripts were executed and tortured by locals which led to army’s brutal retaliation leading to cycle of violence. Ethnic crime also contributed with some diasporas having immense powers in Moscow. This boiling cocktail leads to a huge albeit suppressed anger amongst general population. A politician who proposes disbanding Russian Federation and imposing a visa regime with ethnic regions will ride a wave of support not seen by Putin. That’s why Putin crushes any nationalist opposition much harder than liberal one. It’s the biggest threat to his rule if there’s one. Rogozin served mainly as a spoiler. His fake party sponged some dissent votes in 2003 and then disappeared. Once again even if his Nazi views are genuine, he’s a power hungry Machiavelist first.

theplumber 4y ago

>> N-words and F-words freely. What are the F words? Fascist?

lotusmars 4y ago
A slur word used against gay people.
- sam_lowry_ 4y ago
  Hm... my English is not good enough to guess it :-( As for the N-word, there is a similarly sounding but fairly neutral Russian word which was OK to use until the influence of the US culture tarnished it.
  - dekhn 4y ago
    it's also used to refer to a bundle of wood in england.
    - sam_lowry_ 4y ago
      Thanks, now I get it. Now... what's the Russian F-word that Rogozin was apparently using? гомик? педик? these are pejorative rather than grossly offensive. пидорас is probably the best translation, but it is more of a slur than a contentful word. I am genuinely puzzled.
      - lotusmars 4y ago
        In Russia homophobia is such an integral part of society and day to day life (due to prison culture) that those horrific, dehumanizing and derogatory words you’ve mentioned are actually considered “pejorative rather than grossly offensive” N-word as well. Ordinary Russians will fight tooth and nail for their right to use this word.
        theplumber 4y ago
        >> N-word as well. Ordinary Russians will fight tooth and nail for their right to use this word. To be honest I believe the americans promoted the n-word and they still do it MORE than anyone else(i.e russia). Just listen a random rap song or watch a movie with black people. It seems part of the american culture. As someone from a small European country I couldn't really understand how a word can be both "forbidden" and widely used by the offended party. Nevertheless offensive words are offensives and we should try to avoid using them but talking about F word and N word and B word and M word even in a neutral context seems a bit too much censorship. We are not kids to be told we are not allowed to say specific words. And it looks like now another word is going to be forbidden: H word.
        sam_lowry_ 4y ago
        Hello word?
tut-urut-utut 4y ago

kingofpandora 4y ago

> Yeah, he was heading actual Nazi parades. There are enough videos on YouTube with him at the rallies wearing a leather jacket with saluting neo-Nazis around. He also uses N-words and F-words freely. > One of Rodina’s TV ads were comparing Caucausus people to street trash. This seems to be a common trait across the political spectrum in Russia. The darling of the west, Alexei Navalny, is just as nationalist and xenophobic, and while he doesn't compare people from the Caucasus as trash, he did compare them to vermin that need to be exterminated in his TV ads.

lotusmars 4y ago
It’s because there’s a huge support for these views in Russia. And any politician who actually wants to succeed is bound to channel this energy or at least address it. Russia has severe ongoing problems with national tensions and conflicts. Not only between Russians and other nations but among those nations as well (e.g. ingush vs chechen). Main reason is that Russia was built as a colonialist empire. Most ethnic regions had nothing in common except for being conquered. That led to bad blood such as ongoing ethnic conflicts, disputed regions and insurgencies being crushed by Kremlin using mostly ethnically white army. Multiple bombings of Grozny easily rival current destruction of Ukraine, along with mass rape and pillaging. Conscripts were executed and tortured by locals which led to army’s brutal retaliation leading to cycle of violence. Ethnic crime also contributed with some diasporas having immense powers in Moscow. This boiling cocktail leads to a huge albeit suppressed anger amongst general population. A politician who proposes disbanding Russian Federation and imposing a visa regime with ethnic regions will ride a wave of support not seen by Putin. That’s why Putin crushes any nationalist opposition much harder than liberal one. It’s the biggest threat to his rule if there’s one. Rogozin served mainly as a spoiler. His fake party sponged some dissent votes in 2003 and then disappeared. Once again even if his Nazi views are genuine, he’s a power hungry Machiavelist first.