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One of the authors tweeted this: "The rest of the world has accepted the endemic nature of Covid and moved on, but the U.S. is an int'l outlier, still pushing
by kindatrue 4y ago
One of the authors tweeted this:
"The rest of the world has accepted the endemic nature of Covid and moved on, but the U.S. is an int'l outlier, still pushing mass testing & chasing down every case." [0]
I'm not sure what inverse universe he lives in given that we barely do any official testing, and contact tracing never even got off the ground.
His retweets are also all the other well known covid-minimizers - including the infamous Jay Bhattacharya.
[0] https://twitter.com/MartyMakary/status/1546533258187390977 https://twitter.com/MartyMakary/status/1546533258187390977
- KerrAvon 4y agoYeah, it's also a fabrication, unless "by the world" he means to exclude China.
- Aeolun 4y agoAnd Japan
- amluto 4y agoAnd large parts of Europe, at least judging by the travel restrictions on their websites.
- lovich 4y agoNew Zealand as well for the list. I think we can be fairly certain the author is full of shit
- veeti 4y agoWhich parts are those exactly? Even the strictest countries like Germany no longer have any entry restrictions.
- bonzini 4y agoNot sure about entry restrictions but there aren't any serious "behavioral" restrictions in Europe at the moment, despite most countries being through a BA.5 wave. Vaccine, testing and mask mandates have mostly been lifted. Here in Italy there's still a mask mandate on public transport, which is not uniformly enforced even, but that's it.
- donw 4y agoJapan has effectively zero COVID restrictions.
- astrange 4y agoThe border being closed is quite a large one, but Japan has done better domestically than almost anyone else with very consistent advice since the start, which is admirable.
- dredmorbius 4y agoTaiwan would like a word. Other countries with excellent control: New Zealand, Iceland, Taiwan, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
- corrral 4y agoShit, most cities in the US stopped seriously doing comprehensive contact tracing around the time NY threw in the towel, back in late Spring or early Summer 2020 IIRC. Yes, within months of it reaching our shores. "Pushing mass testing" LOL in what universe? I guess they shipped out a second wave of those mediocre home tests recently but not that many of them and only if you asked. Otherwise you just go get tested at a doctor's office or urgent care if you start to feel terrible, if you want to, just like with the flu, so you know exactly how careful you and others in your household need to be about hanging out around old folks. In fact, one of the ones we recently did was a combo test for both Covid and flu. Anything beyond that's coming from employers, not the government, and most of them aren't doing much anymore and haven't been for a while.
- darkerside 4y agoI guess this is anecdotal, but counterexample. I had COVID twice. The first time there was extensive contact tracing performed by the county. The second time, there was basically nothing. Contact tracing in my area stopped when Omicron took over.
- dredmorbius 4y agoBoth you and the commenter you're responding to are making the point that contact tracing now seems not to be actively pursued. Both accounts contradict the article. To that extent, you seem to be in agreement.
- tick_tock_tick 4y agoAll the state have moved on but the Federal government guidance is still stuck in the past.
- fma 4y agoWhat is the federal government enforcing? Don't even need to be tested before flying into the US anymore.
- ch4s3 4y agoThe post you’re replying to says “guidance”, not regulations or enforcement.
- space_fountain 4y agoBut guidance is an incredibly weak standard. The CDC for example recommend you only eat steaks cooked to a temperature that works out to medium done or higher. I suspect I'm not even sure the guidance on the state level is actually different. I suspect just less reported on
- ch4s3 4y agoThat’s exactly the critique. The CDC makes blanket recommendations that aren’t based in science and assume you dear citizen are incapable of grappling with nuanced advice.
- bigcat12345678 4y ago
- ch4s3 4y agoThat’s incredibly classist and condescending. Any adult can understand that for example rare meat is somewhat risky, but not very and that risk may increase with ground meat. Anyone could understand that some masks are better than others. This sort of disdain for average people is exactly why the CDC is being criticized here. [Edit] to anyone who disagrees, I’d love a justification from principle for the government treating the poor and uneducated like they’re stupid.
- NaturalPhallacy 4y agoIf there are covid minimizers, are there covid maximizers?
- scifibestfi 4y ago100% yes.
- wincy 4y agoI know a guy who hasn't gone inside of a restaurant in the last two and a half years. I'm literally laying in bed sick with covid and my mouth tastes like the anti-nailbiting bittering nail polish because of the Paxlovid right now, and I still think that's too cautious.
- rajup 4y agoOh yes, very loud ones too who have magically obtained PhDs in biology, virology and immunology all in the past 2 years. It’s amazing!
- pikma 4y agoA kid in my 3yo son's preschool class tested positive today, and they are asking that all kids test twice (with a few days in between) and wear masks at all times while at school for the next 6 days. I'm in SF My intuition is that people underestimate the impact of forcing kids and toddlers to wear masks. What I observe is that for folks without kids, life has gotten back to normal, but somehow everything related to kids is still over cautious.