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Secret Service Deleted Jan 6 Text Messages After Officials Requested Them
- homeland221 4y agoRemember Peter Strzok? His FBI phone "accidentally" wipeout. To this day, there are no repercussions. I am 100x more worried about FBI can get away with this kind of behavior than this Jan 6 drama.
- mcphage 4y ago> I am 100x more worried about FBI can get away with this kind of behavior than this Jan 6 drama Why?
- ncmncm 4y agoWhich is a bigger problem: armed rabble, or people using the power of the Federal government against you?
- mcphage 4y ago> Which is a bigger problem Armed rabble trying to turn the power of the Federal government against me.
- ncmncm 4y agoThe armed rabble have been arrested, charged, and in many cases imprisoned. The federal agents in question have not been, despite manifest proof of the crime of destroying evidence.
- mcphage 4y agoI see. So previously you did find it concerning, and now that there have been arrests, you’re no longer so concerned about it?
- ncmncm 4y agoI am particularly concerned about the wide variety of federal agents and officials not indicted for well-documented crimes. First among those, torture. Rabble are way, way down list.
- landemva 4y agoWhen the intelligence community doesnt't like those who are in power, they stage a coup. JFK documents are still classified to protect the image of which 3-letter agency?
- mcphage 4y ago> JFK documents are still classified to protect the image of which 3-letter agency? The CIA
- itsdrewmiller 4y agoI assume you're talking about what Wikipedia describes as: > In 2018, President Trump falsely claimed that 19,000 text messages between Strzok and Page "were purposely & illegally deleted" and that these text messages "Would have explained whole Hoax".[78][79] PolitiFact rated the claim "Pants-on-fire" false. An investigation by the Justice Department's inspector general found no evidence the messages were purposefully deleted, some from the work phones were recovered, and that the texts on their personal phones were lost when they were reset.[78][79]
- akvadrako 4y agoThat PolitiFact quote isn't even a rebuttal. One wouldn't expect to find evidence they were purpousefully deleted. The fact their personal phones were reset is pretty suspicious though.
- orwin 4y agoI reset my personnal phone every 6 month. I don't understand why people don't do this. It solve ghost typing, slowness and overall is a better way to delete unused apps tha "uninstall" those.
- panarky 4y agoThe rule of law cannot survive when government officials and law enforcement are exempt.
- otikik 4y agoSo… shouldn’t those text messages be on a server, in addition to being in the mobile phones (pre-“accidental erasure”)? What am I missing?
- onionisafruit 4y agoThe article seems to omit when the erasure happened aside from saying it was after IG requested the records. Did IG make the request when Trump’s people were still in charge or after the transition? No mention of that key detail.
- panarky 4y agoHis people are still in charge.
- krapp 4y ago
- ruskyhacker 4y agoHeREeee we go!
- ncmncm 4y agoPoe's Law strikes again.
- Ekaros 4y agoThere might not have been coup attempt. But it is clear there was some conspiracy or criminal amount of negligence going on... And it is pretty certain which political side orchestrated it all. And it is not the one being blamed.
- JaceLightning 4y ago.... Why was the secret service sending sensitive data in text messages?!
- onionisafruit 4y agoWe don’t know if they were because the messages are gone.
- me_me_me 4y agoLOL, they purposely wiped messages because they contained alibi for the whole thing, right? Nazis started burning documents when loosing war, but it was probably cook books and poetry tomes, we could never know.
- panarky 4y agoThe fact that the messages are gone is pretty good evidence that they're incriminating.
- everforward 4y agoAfaik, that can be introduced into court as well. If spoliation of evidence can be demonstrated, evidence of that can be brought into court, and the jury can be instructed that they are allowed (but not required) to assume that the evidence was unfavorable to the party that destroyed it. That they're willing to admit it is extremely concerning. It either means they think they can get away with it, or that whatever was in the texts is worse than what they're being accused of. Neither is a good thing for a functioning democracy.
- senectus1 4y agoI wonder if this is the media calling text messages and meaning "signal messages" or some other app. I'd be shocked if the SecServ was smsing at all...
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- e67f70028a46fba 4y agoThe idea these messages are “gone” is ridiculous. They are in plenty of intelligence databases. If they don’t come out it’s because the powers that be don’t want them out.
- seanp2k2 4y agoThis; guessing part of the reason they won’t ask the alphabet boys for them is because they don’t want the public to really understand that “collection” just means “searched for” information that they’re storing for everyone. Ancient history at this point but if you missed it and have no idea what I’m talking about https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/nsa-surveillance-the-21st-century-panopticon/280715/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/nsa-sur...
- BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 4y ago
- tablespoon 4y ago> Spiriting away the VP from his duty comes across as an Oh So Convenient way to ensure Trump's coup would succeed. It's also the most logical action to take, if your primary objective is to keep the VP safe from physical harm.
- ncmncm 4y agoI see you missed the memo.
- tablespoon 4y ago> I see you missed the memo. What, that we're indulging in paranoid conspiracy theories and ignoring more rational explanations?
- ncmncm 4y agoNo, that Pence, who was in a better position to know than anybody else, did not trust that SS would necessarily do what you imagine.