> You need to include Newark, Yonkers, Long Island, etc if you want to compare those figures. That's just not an accurate comparison. Live in NYC. Lived in Ja

> You need to include Newark, Yonkers, Long Island, etc if you want to compare those figures. That's just not an accurate comparison. Live in NYC. Lived in Japan. The difference is transit. It is far easier to get to Saitama or Kawasaki or Yokohama or Chiba than it is to get to Long Island from NYC. You can do the former in an hour at rush hour. Try getting to downtown Manhattan from Bay Shore as a daily commute. You'll go mad. Here's Tokyo and New York at the same zoom level: Tokyo: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.736739,139.6246444,10z https://www.google.com/maps/@35.736739,139.6246444,10z NYC: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7983574,-73.948053,10z https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7983574,-73.948053,10z The gray area of Tokyo on that map is pretty much all considered an exurb of Tokyo, more-or-less feasible for daily commute by rail. Most of the NYC region is inaccessible from Manhattan, except by car. Look at the Seibu Shinjuku line, or the Chuo line on the Tokyo map -- both offer express trains that will take you from the distant western exurbs, right into the middle of downtown Tokyo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seibu_Shinjuku_Line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seibu_Shinjuku_Line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Line_(Rapid) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Line_(Rapid)