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Just to provide a 3rd party reaction here: it sounds like you've circularly reasoned yourself into a trap of your own making. You don't want to live anywhere el

by dcow 4y ago

Just to provide a 3rd party reaction here: it sounds like you've circularly reasoned yourself into a trap of your own making. You don't want to live anywhere else because you like NYC. Because no other city is exactly like NYC, you aren't interested in living anywhere else. The reason it's "circular" is because there are cities with good transit, good arts, great food, have a tech scene, and even have financial districts and you'd be surprised to find out how well diverse cultures get along in a log of smaller towns across the US (far fewer racial/cultural over/under-tones) and how safe they are (safer than NYC). Yeah, no other place is the center for any of these things save SF being the tech nexus and maybe having better renditions of some types of cuisine. So if you have to be in the center of the world, then yeah, you're not going to find other centers of the world. For me, personally, I'm disappointed by how few world cities the US has. NYC and Chicago are really it. My silly benchmark for what makes a city a world city is that it operates 24hrs a day (at least parts of it). Chicago barely does but I think it counts. Everywhere else in the US just dies past 10pm and especially past 2am.

brailsafe 4y ago
I think your last point is an interesting arbitrary distinction, if you're going to make one. While Vancouver is pretty well regarded as a NA city with pretty decent transit infrastructure and other nice qualities, it does basically close after 2am which isn't as nice as a night owl. Transit stops almost completely around that time too. Edit: None of this comment was meant to detract, just a comparison in agreement to the city I'm nore familiar with. Maybe Toronto's different
nradov 4y ago
That seems like a silly criteria. How many people really care about doing things at 3:00 AM? We're talking about a small niche of shift workers and childless young people. Las Vegas operates 24 hours a day if that's what you want.
- dcow 4y ago
  Have you lived in or visited a world city? The feel and vibe is very different. It's why New York is called the city that never sleeps. When you get dense enough, there's always something to do and people out wanting to do it or at least wanting to serve it to you.
  - GauntletWizard 4y ago
    What else do you qualify as a world city? London is dead at 2AM except in a few specific areas, the tube shuts down. Paris as well. I think what you mean by "World City" is actually just "Party Zone".
    - dcow 4y ago
      Not sure if you've heard the term before but it's a real thing and it doesn't just mean "party zone": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city. More or less the effect of being a world city that's an economic/financial hub is that you have an emergent 24/7 network of services operational to support it. > except in a few specific areas Yeah that's what I meant. I don't mean "the whole city is awake". I mean that there are amenities available in certain areas more or less 24/7, because of the density, there is a critical mass of 2nd and 3rd shift workers, and other "off-hours" workers who have different schedules and make use of it. For those interested, here's where the alpha beta gamma and -/ /+[+] classification system comes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities_Research_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities...
      - GauntletWizard 4y ago
        London is #2 in your list, and barely any of it qualifies by your definition. You won't find 24 hour services in most parts of London. You will find a downtown with a 24 hour pharmacy and a couple 24 hour drive thrus in my small town outside Seattle (and no 24 hour drive thrus or delivery within city limits). You've got a very cosmopolitan view of what the world is. You should consider changing that.
zjaffee 4y ago
It's a weird metric to say that late night nightlife is critical for being a global city, instead of say, huge percentages of the population coming from foreign countries. Airport access for direct flights, ect. Miami also meets every single one of these metrics and has later night life than NYC. New Orleans has 24 hr night life. Vegas too. Los Angeles has a higher foreign born population than NYC.
nunez 4y ago
What is a "world city?"

by dcow 4y ago

brailsafe 4y ago

I think your last point is an interesting arbitrary distinction, if you're going to make one. While Vancouver is pretty well regarded as a NA city with pretty decent transit infrastructure and other nice qualities, it does basically close after 2am which isn't as nice as a night owl. Transit stops almost completely around that time too. Edit: None of this comment was meant to detract, just a comparison in agreement to the city I'm nore familiar with. Maybe Toronto's different

nradov 4y ago

That seems like a silly criteria. How many people really care about doing things at 3:00 AM? We're talking about a small niche of shift workers and childless young people. Las Vegas operates 24 hours a day if that's what you want.

dcow 4y ago
Have you lived in or visited a world city? The feel and vibe is very different. It's why New York is called the city that never sleeps. When you get dense enough, there's always something to do and people out wanting to do it or at least wanting to serve it to you.
- GauntletWizard 4y ago
  What else do you qualify as a world city? London is dead at 2AM except in a few specific areas, the tube shuts down. Paris as well. I think what you mean by "World City" is actually just "Party Zone".
  - dcow 4y ago
    Not sure if you've heard the term before but it's a real thing and it doesn't just mean "party zone": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city. More or less the effect of being a world city that's an economic/financial hub is that you have an emergent 24/7 network of services operational to support it. > except in a few specific areas Yeah that's what I meant. I don't mean "the whole city is awake". I mean that there are amenities available in certain areas more or less 24/7, because of the density, there is a critical mass of 2nd and 3rd shift workers, and other "off-hours" workers who have different schedules and make use of it. For those interested, here's where the alpha beta gamma and -/ /+[+] classification system comes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities_Research_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities...
    - GauntletWizard 4y ago
      London is #2 in your list, and barely any of it qualifies by your definition. You won't find 24 hour services in most parts of London. You will find a downtown with a 24 hour pharmacy and a couple 24 hour drive thrus in my small town outside Seattle (and no 24 hour drive thrus or delivery within city limits). You've got a very cosmopolitan view of what the world is. You should consider changing that.

zjaffee 4y ago

It's a weird metric to say that late night nightlife is critical for being a global city, instead of say, huge percentages of the population coming from foreign countries. Airport access for direct flights, ect. Miami also meets every single one of these metrics and has later night life than NYC. New Orleans has 24 hr night life. Vegas too. Los Angeles has a higher foreign born population than NYC.

nunez 4y ago

What is a "world city?"