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Ukraine’s new rockets are wreaking havoc on Russia’s army
- labrador 4y agoI was surprised to find an expression I've never heard before: cock-a-hoop: adjective, extremely and obviously pleased, especially about a triumph or success. "Ukrainian commanders are cock-a-hoop. They say HIMARS is tilting the war back in their favour" Several military bloggers have also said Ukrainian partisans behind Russian lines are providing GPS targeting information of where Russians try to hide the ammo dumps https://archive.ph/uiR8W https://archive.ph/uiR8W
- daza 4y agoThe targeting information is provided from satellite images - no need to risk peoples lives.
- labrador 4y agoBehind Enemy Lines, Scouts Help Ukrainians Execute Deadly Strikes https://twitter.com/Mikayla91188348/status/1546211687979593728 https://twitter.com/Mikayla91188348/status/15462116879795937... A lot of mil bloggers are under the impression Ukrainian civilians are helping with targets that are under cloud cover or vegetation cover. I'd be interested to know if this is incorrect and satellites can see everything using many wavelengths
- wrp 4y agoBoth Russian and Ukrainian sources agree that Ukrainian civilians are providing extensive field intelligence. That doesn't rule out satellite intel. Also, as the article points out, these ammunition dumps are huge and located in predictable places, so finding them is not hard.
- decremental 4y ago
- sdfhdhjdw3 4y agoWhy is that?
- decremental 4y ago
- planarhobbit 4y agoGiven the misinformation that western media fell for, it certainly is cringe and bluepilled. It’s like people believe the narrative they want to see and ignore reality.
- sdfhdhjdw3 4y ago> Because the Global American Empire is always on the side of what is bad, wrong, or immoral. Here's a simple rule to guide you. If GAE says it's good, it's bad. If GAE says it's bad then it's good. Remember that the empire exists to serve its own interests which are always against the interests of regular people. No idea why this is being downvoted. I actually think this is an excellent characterization of Russian propaganda. But why is it that you enjoy that?
- mhh__ 4y agoI can just imagine the contemporary contrarian takes about to the great atrocities of the past.
- sph 4y agoIt is incredibly charitable of you to call someone that splits the world into "cringe" and "based and redpilled" a contemporary contrarian. I think they should just close the 4chan tab and go outside a bit.
- JabavuAdams 4y agoI thought Russia had good GPS-jamming technology. I guess like many "I thought Russia had ..." statements, we're learning how real and/or widely deployed various capabilities are.
- mrguyorama 4y agoRussia has reasonably effective GPS jamming in Moscow, but it's not exactly mobile. Also, the vast majority of Russian "tech" is made with western parts and tools so they're struggling.
- ac29 4y agoEven if they did jam the GPS signal, it would only reduce the accuracy of the system since the missiles have inertial guidance systems as well. I dont know if the accuracy of such a system under degraded GNSS conditions is public knowledge, but I bet its pretty good.
- greedo 4y agoFrom what I've read, GMLRS using inertial guidance is good for a 7 meter CEP, while the GPS part brings that down to 5 meters [1]. 1. https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1532841072300380161?s=20&t=_xlloaz5UToPwRdc7-pzxA https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1532841072300380161?s=20...
- fareesh 4y ago
- bratbag 4y agoThe overwhelming majority of the Ukrainians displaced want to fight. Compromising with an aggressive dictator only delays that fight while making the dictator stronger
- erentz 4y agoProbably best not to engage. These people simply do not see Ukrainians as humans with their own agency and really seem to believe they should just lay down and let the genocide happen to them.
- fareesh 4y agoBy the same token you can also see me as more than that characterization, with different reasons for the ones you assume.
- fareesh 4y agoThey want to fight because they were displaced because of an invasion. My comment says the war is unnecessary - and that includes the invasion. The civil war in Ukraine between the west and the separatist regions could have ended in a compromise.
- everybodyknows 4y agoTrue, war is unnecessary. Freedom is likewise "unnecessary".
- baybal2 4y ago
- greedo 4y agoYou keep saying "civil war." It was nothing of the sort. It was a Russian operation to seize the Donbass after the Maiden revolution. The 2022 invasion is just Russia being more overt instead of relying on "little green men."
- kylehotchkiss 4y agoI like to look at the price of these missiles and compare them to whatever federal taxes I paid last year. It's amusing to think of how many years one American's federal taxes goes to launching a single strike!
- mdp2021 4y agoIf only we had invested in preemptive civilization.
- retcon 4y agoWe did but according to anecdotal evidence self preoccupied boomers forgot to pass it on.
- desindol 4y agoDepends on the American.
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- petre 4y agoWould you rather your fellow Americans losing their lives instead of Ukrainians defending their country and grinding the Russian army? Because that's the tradeoff being made.
- wrp 4y agoThe key points are: America has provided eight launchers and on July 8th said it would send four more. Each one carries a pod of six gps-guided missiles accurate up to 84km... America’s army tends to disperse and conceal its ammunition dumps across a number of smaller sites. Russia’s army, which relies heavily on trains to move munitions and human muscle to load them onto trucks, has instead created big depots close to railheads... So, how much effect HIMARS will have seems to depend on how long it will take the Russians to adapt by dispersing their ammunition caches.
- _kbh_ 4y agoRussian military doctrine kinda relies on these central ammunition depots, they will likely have trouble with changing it. They will probably just move the ammo depots further back but the problem is, if they move them out of the range of HIMARS then because of their lack of solid logistics their time to get ammo drastically increases.
- greedo 4y agoThis. Russia relies heavily on trains for logistics, so all their main depots will be near a railhead. Then they have to truck the supplies to the front. They're lacking in trucks so the further back they move the depots, the longer the supply route. Putting more wear and tear on the trucks, slowing the supply amounts, etc. And trying to disperse the depots into smaller amounts doesn't really help; say you cut it in half somehow (ignoring the doctrinal challenges). Then you actually need more trucks, and you need to plan carefully about the supply levels at each mini-depot. Besides, if you cut the depot size, the Ukrainians will still hit them with HIMARS etc. One or two rockets is enough for most of these sites.
- deterministic 4y agoNon-paywall link?